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UPDATE: Anyone cured perioral dermatitis naturally?

Answered on August 17, 2016
Created January 07, 2013 at 1:57 AM

I actually had my first ever flare up of perioral dermatitis around my nose about 6 months ago. Been Paleo for nearly a year now and have no idea why it's come about when my previous diet and skincare regime was very much based around commercial stuff and all that's not good for you

So I've got dry, red, little bumps that create flaky skin around the crease of my nose. Not a good look. Anyway, I discontinued use of all commerical skin products about 8-9 months ago and have since, been using only a combination of jojoba, coconut and rosehip oil to moisturize. the rest of my skin has never been softer and better!! I also apply paw paw during the day to stop the flaking and sooth the dry feeling. I have also tried a regime of washing with baking soda and applying ACV with no success. Even tried applying kefir topically thinking it could combat it if it's some fungal skin infection!

Obviously steriod creams and chemical laden stuff is off the menu as I've read plenty on the net that they don't even work.

So my friends, got any ideas, magical potions and cures, or personal experience on the matter? Reckon some sort of microdermabrasion treatment would help? I'm getting pretty desperate hey...

EDIT

UPDATE *after 2 weeks*: Seeing some slight improvements! Have been taking 4-5grams L-Glutamine x2 daily. Have made a huge effort to not aggravate my skin and touch it etc. No makeup on it for the last week as well which has been a big hurdle to jump (as I'm sure my fellow females will understand) but no doubt has a HUGE impact on the rate of healing. Have less flaking and redness although some small little bumps are noticable around the general perioral area still. But it's early days still and this progress is definately the most I've seen! Am off overseas for 10 days so it'll be challenging to keep the paleo diet in fine tune but will be making the best choices I can. Will continue supplementing.

  • *UPDATE #2* - March 2013

Well, about 5 weeks ago my PD took a REALLY bad turn. I have no idea what spurred the flare up. My guess would be stress because my diet didn't change that significantly. I could waste my time speculating but I'll never be sure because it's such a fickle 'disease' and from my extensive research it's clear that it can come about out of no where and the root cause seems to be different from person to person, along with what works and what doesn't. So after I suffered a week from painful open wounds around my nose which began to affect me emotionally & cause sleep problems (yes, the skin had actually broken and was 'weeping' ... yucky) I went to the doctor and she put me on a 2 week cycle of Erythromycin. Prior to taking the antibiotics, I had been treating the open sores and skin with high grade manuka honey which soothed and helped to heal them within 3 days. I then went on the antibiotics. I admit, it was my pride more than anything that took the batting here. But within 3 days the skin was CLEARLY beginning to heal and within a week it was almost completely healed!!! At the end of the course... ZIP, ZAP, GONE! No nasty redness, pumps or scaling to be seen and my nose is now 99% normal. (It can get dry when I'm inside the office all day).

I'm determined to make this doesn't happen again. Just to share, what I've found to help promote healthy skin and will hopefully help keep me problem free in the future (basically doing the opposite of what I was doing before the onset of my PD!!):

  1. Not using ANY form of chemical products on my face. I now occasionally wash my face with either raw honey, a light ACV & baking soda mixture or lemon and sugar to exfoliate. I moisturize with unrefined cold-pressed coconut oil, jojoba oil, grapeseed oil or rosehip.
  2. Continuing to restore my gut/flora by taking kefir, probiotics, sauerkraut, bone broth and L-Glut
  3. Steering clear of processed dairy, gluten and minimal caffeine. They're skin no-nos IMO.
  4. Reduce stress as much as humanly possible. This compromises the body in so many ways and is my biggest challenge. Have once again recommenced yoga. Oh how I have missed my yoga :-)
  5. A paleo diet and natural skin care regime has otherwise helped my skin glow and maintain its natural oils (thank you yummy saturated animals fats) - my skin was always dry pre-paleo
  6. Cutting back on PUFAs (scrapping cheap, off-the-shelf fish oil supplements that are oxidised and crappy quality). Instead, supplementing with Green Pastures Fermented CLO & butter oil blend.
  7. Keeping the Liver happy and functionally.... alcohol... cough cough and taking something like milk thistle, turmeric or other liver promoting herbs

Anyway, I encourage those who suffer from this to just do what you feel is right considering your circumstances. If it's compromising your mental/emotional health, it's not worth letting your pride get in the way of healing like in my case. I'll admit, I wanted to heal this naturally but I had no idea what I was trying to 'cure' here. The way it came about had left me clueless as to what the root cause could have been. It was most likely a number of things. So there you go. That's my contribution and I wish you well if you are struggling with this!

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on November 21, 2013
at 02:29 AM

Have you ever tried stopping the paleo diet and eat normal for a couple of months?

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on April 11, 2013
at 12:06 PM

Paul Jaminet told me in an email that my skin issues were most likely caused by malnourishment and lack of carbs.

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on April 09, 2013
at 10:18 PM

Yes - erythromycin

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(39821)

on April 09, 2013
at 08:38 PM

Did you take an oral antibiotic for a skin condition?

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on April 07, 2013
at 11:13 PM

Since you are in NZ though, you could try getting your hands on some Manuka Honey and using that to see if it helps the sores. No guarentee but it did help me to an extent when mine got REALLY bad.

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on April 07, 2013
at 11:12 PM

Sorry to hear this. I know exactly what you're going through. It's such a tricky situation because unless you know yourself what the cause was (e.g. a change in cosmetics or face products that have harsh chemicals, or a highly stressful event, or hormonal imbalance), doctor's will have a hard time figuring it out for you because there is no 1 cause for everyone. It flares up for different reasons. For me, it sucks to say, but it was only antibiotics that could clear it up. I didn't have anything else that could be easily diagnosed like candida.

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on April 07, 2013
at 04:47 AM

I was to start with but added starches back in more generously over the last few months. I'll keep this up too since I've found low-carb negatively affects my skin. Am jam packing my body with nutrients over the next few weeks!

59dfcdb223534fc87aaaf75aa984782a

(20)

on April 07, 2013
at 03:08 AM

Thanks much, primalpat... been eating lots of oranges today, we'll see if that helps! (been taking L-glut for awhile now...)

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on April 06, 2013
at 03:19 PM

I talked to Paul Jaminet about my past skin issues and he said it was probably malnourishment. He also said l-glutamine acts as carbs in the body and I could have done just as well eating a potato. EAT CARBS! But definitely try l-glut too :)

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on April 06, 2013
at 03:14 PM

Wowzers. Crazy that you had such a nasty flare-up. I'm glad it's under control now! I emailed Paul Jaminet the other day about my past/current issues, and he told me skin issues come from being malnourished. He also said l-glutamine acts like carbs in the body, and eating a potato would have helped heal my skin also. Are you doing low-carb? If so, maybe try eating some starch.

59dfcdb223534fc87aaaf75aa984782a

(20)

on April 05, 2013
at 03:19 AM

Thanks for responding CoconutBliss! Would you say the antibiotics have done the trick for you? Probably too soon to say I would imagine. My dr. prescribed Protopic (which I will pick up tomorrow). Hopefully that does the trick. Interesting theory....

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on April 05, 2013
at 12:38 AM

Totally agree with eliminating SLS containing products. pre-paleo I was exposing my skin to all sorts of crap like this that no doubt contributed to its gradual susceptibility to problems

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on April 05, 2013
at 12:35 AM

I just hope my body will find its healthy new point of equilibrium soon!

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on April 05, 2013
at 12:35 AM

I just hope my body will find it's healthy new point of equilibrium soon!

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on April 05, 2013
at 12:35 AM

Hi Neko1717! I found it really strange too as I experienced something similiar to you. My personal theory goes, that a change in diet actually 'disturbed' the delicate balance of gut flora and hormones my body had found itself in (even though it was no doubt leaning on the side of being 'unhealthy', it was still functioning in its own way) and whatever it was, caused a bacterial stir up. So it's a shame that in an attempt to clean up our lifestyles and diet, we are faced with such problems but it just goes to show how delicate our bodies are to change and environmental disturbances, good & bad

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on March 31, 2013
at 09:46 PM

that's interesting. Probably explains why it's been so stubborn and non-reactive to other forms of treatment for you right? How's the Doctor treating it now? Definitely a lesson learned there. I'm just stoked my PD is gone. Such a relief. Hope you get your condition sorted Marcy!

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4176)

on March 31, 2013
at 12:01 AM

Great to hear it is clearing up! Sorry to hear you had to break down and go the "conventional" route. I totally understand. When I went back in for a follow up visit, the doc said the rash on my nose was NOT acne (as she originally said it was and treated it as) but actually a rash resulting from my Tumid Lupus. I was pretty surprised and learned my lesson about self-diagnosing myself from the internet!

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4176)

on February 02, 2013
at 12:05 AM

I am going to continue with the L-Glut and healing the gut, too. I think that is the real root of all the evil. But until it is healed, I am going to focus on eliminating all the topical problems. I will post back in a few days and if this is making the P.D. go away, I will definitely sound it from the rooftops!

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4176)

on February 02, 2013
at 12:02 AM

Hey, so I got the GSE in the mail this morning and I swear it is doing something (I always think that when I try a new hack - must be some powerful placebo effect!). My lymph nodes which were grotesquely swollen and painful have seriously calmed down and it is crazy, but I think my face is pretty noticeably less red! Thankfully, I am working on a project at home for the next week, so I can hole up and wear no make up and have strange potions on my face without scaring people on the street! I use Teeth Chips (saponified oils) to brush with, so I def. blame the evil new moisturizer.

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on February 01, 2013
at 10:23 PM

I've heard about the fluoride thing too. Check your toothpaste as well. My next experiment will be to attempt a bit of a detox next week in an attempt to clean up my gut and rid the body of any bugs I might have picked up overseas and to up the anti on my probiotics. Playing this one day by day!!

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on February 01, 2013
at 10:19 PM

oh no marcy! Sorry to hear about this! Definitely eliminate all cosmetics and creams stat! I have only be using 100% natural products, like coconut oil, jojoba oil, paw paw and 100% cocoa butter which keeps the area moisturized. Similar to you, I saw a big improvement in the first week or so but now it just seems to have plateaued. My holiday away actually helped even though my diet was not as clean because I wasn't touching or continuously playing with my skin which I have a tendency to do when at work etc. because no doubt, I'm still self conscious about it. I totally get your pain!!

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on January 29, 2013
at 03:09 AM

I've been using a brand called Genetix (I'm in Australia) but will also be using NOW brand from the US when that runs out. Pat - I just got back yesterday - whilst my diet wasn't perfect (probably fell back to 70/30 , my skin still seems to be healing! Back on track now so looking forward to the next 2 weeks!

2290a76f8025af1daa742b2688231350

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on January 25, 2013
at 07:33 PM

Thanks for this, C'Bliss! I'm afraid I've succumbed to "modern" medicine. I'm using topical metronidazole, and it does seem to be helping. For reference, I'm 55, Hashimoto's, and taking anastrozole (breast cancer treatment). Lord knows what my hormones are doing.... :D

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on January 22, 2013
at 11:34 PM

I learned a long time ago...that we need to be our own advocate :)

06bf7b92d77f1ac1d8e3dc9d539d8254

(1649)

on January 22, 2013
at 01:50 PM

Well shit. Good to know.. wish my naturopath would've told me that little tidbit. Thanks!

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on January 22, 2013
at 01:59 AM

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so happy for you, Miss CoconutBliss!!! Make sure you're still eating clean, and be gentle with washing. Try the honey, it's incredible.

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on January 22, 2013
at 01:57 AM

I read that the sun aggravates the damn derm. I can't comment, as the early stages of mine were pretty shitty and during the early spring/summer. Way before I discovered the amazing l-glut.

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on January 22, 2013
at 01:56 AM

Usually. First thing in the morning, but sometimes after having tea. I don't see an issue with a belly full of a hot mug of tea. But when I was healing my skin, it was absolutely on an empty stomach, no tea or anything.

06bf7b92d77f1ac1d8e3dc9d539d8254

(1649)

on January 21, 2013
at 10:57 PM

Pat, if I may, do you take your L-Glut on an empty stomach?

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on January 18, 2013
at 03:01 PM

I went through a few. I was using NOW and had the best success with it. Tried Organika...still did the trick, but was meh about it. Now I'm on Tropic brand, and I'm also kind of meh. NOW foods l-glut actually made my skin tingle not long after taking it. It helped me go to the bathroom too!!! I just found out a local shop has the large containers of NOW l-glut powder and the price is good. That's what I'll be buying once I run out.

197651282ddd8d675b974ee811d2269e

(1836)

on January 18, 2013
at 06:27 AM

PrimalPat, what brand of L- glut do you use?

197651282ddd8d675b974ee811d2269e

(1836)

on January 18, 2013
at 06:26 AM

Great! What brand are you using?

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on January 18, 2013
at 05:20 AM

Hey Marcia! From my research so far, a large number of cases have no known cause but it seems to be more prevalant in females around the age of 20-45. I think a number of factors could have contributed to it in my case such as leaky gut, cosmetic reactions, and hormones. But it's hard to pin down on any one thing. I'm thinking of also trying zinc supplements

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on January 18, 2013
at 05:19 AM

Hey Marcia! From my research so far, a large number of cases have no known cause but it seems to be more prevalant in females around the age of 20-45. I think a number of factor contributed to it in my case such as leaky gut, cosmetic reactions, and hormones. But it's hard to pin down on any one thing. I'm thinking of also trying zinc supplements

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on January 09, 2013
at 01:31 AM

WOOWOO! Keep us posted!

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4176)

on January 09, 2013
at 12:05 AM

I got my L-glutamine in the mail today! Let the healing begin!

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on January 08, 2013
at 12:13 AM

I will bet money that all y'all will be HEALED!!!! Promise. Party at my house. In Toronto. I don't care. Y'all are coming over.

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on January 07, 2013
at 10:42 PM

lol ... it'll be party central on paleohacks i tell ya

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4176)

on January 07, 2013
at 02:21 PM

CB - I really hear you on the flaking piece of painted timber! Sometimes I put it on anyway just so people who are thinking "she should really cover that up" can go "oooh, she tried to cover that up." And Pat - this is do or die time with the L-glut! I have an appointment with the derm. at the end of next month. Desperately don't want whatever napalm they are peddling but I am just getting frantic to have it off. If L-glut works and I can cancel my appointment, I will seriously freak the shit out. Because of course I don't have insurance so it will be self-pay napalm.

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on January 07, 2013
at 11:17 AM

You can gradually up your dose to 20 grams a day. But be careful with overdoing it and don't go too fast, or take too large of a dose in one sitting. That reminds me: I need to take my l-glutamine!

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on January 07, 2013
at 11:15 AM

Marcy, I was about to get married when I finally discovered l-glutamine. I literally only had a few months left before the big day and there was no way I was going to have that shit on my face! I completely and totally sympathize!

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on January 07, 2013
at 09:43 AM

Any idea if there's something in particular about ghee that would be more suitable than say, coconut oil?

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on January 07, 2013
at 09:42 AM

I've never had acne in my life and all the other things like eczema, rosacea, seborrheic dermatitis, etc didn't line up and I've always had really good skin so it came as a rather big shock to me. At all costs, do NOT use steroid creams as this makes it worse and avoid treating with any commercial products as these simply aggravate and upset the natural sebum production of the skin. Keep me posted how you go!

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on January 07, 2013
at 09:30 AM

marcy marcy marcy... wow... firstly, you made me laugh. secondly, congratulations on the wedding to come. thirdly, you sound like my soul sister with this experience trying everything under the bloody sun that is as 'natural' as possible! (and probably rather unnatural if you were an outsider reading this) i totally agree, makeup and this 'disfigurement' do not agree. you end up looking like a flaking piece of painted timber. I have already taken my first 'dose' of l-glutamine. I'm gonna try taking 5g twice a day as pat recommended. Shouldn't have any side-effects. I'll keep ya posted too!!

197651282ddd8d675b974ee811d2269e

(1836)

on January 07, 2013
at 05:01 AM

I've had this problem and never knew that it wasn't acne until it I looked it up just now. I'm going to try L-glut. Thanks!

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on January 07, 2013
at 03:38 AM

ooops... I just reread your comments, so it lines the intestines... I never considered myself having gut issues but here we go... I'm up for a bit of harmless experimenting :-)

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on January 07, 2013
at 03:35 AM

primalpat... THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE!! You have me giddy with excitement now hearing about your experience!! So what do you think it is about L-glutamine that helped?? I'm up for trying anything... seriously. This sounds pretty darn simple compared to what I've been trying so off to the shops I go this afternoon to buy me some...

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74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

on January 07, 2013
at 02:39 AM

YES!!!

Oh my god, I had perioral dermatitis for the better part of an entire year. AND I was dealing with angular cheleitis, or however you spell it. Oh god, it was hell. I was hideously self-conscious of my skin. It was around my mouth, chin and nose.

I used ACV, hydrogen peroxide, emu oil, oil of oregano, tea tree oil. All EXTERNAL 'fixes' and NONE OF IT WORKED.

I started a food journal and meticulously kept track of what made my skin in those areas tingle. Coffee was one, so I cut it out. I realized wheat was definitely a problem, so I cut it out. THAT'S when the biggest changes started coming. I cut out sugar, anything containing yeast, fruit, starch. I was convinced I had candida. But candida is a symptom of a bigger problem, mainly hormones and adrenal fatigue. That's for another post :)

Coconut oil is great for applying on your skin before bed. Use a very light cleanser, like Cetaphil, Spectro Jel or something similar. Be gentle. I also found cleansing your skin with HONEY, is absolutely amazing. It leaves your skin incredibly soft and glowing. GLOWING! I did use baking soda as a cleanser, and here's my theory: baking soda is said to clean fungus off fruits/vegetables, so it's recommended to wash 'em in a solution of baking soda and water. I looked at this dermatitis as a form of fungus. I mixed a small amount of baking soda into some Spectro Jel and very gently scrubbed. Lemme tell ya: IT BURNED. I figured it was working. It really did help with the flakiness. Then I would apply coconut oil, or emu oil, or shea butter.

Your skin is like a third kidney. It's filtering out what's wrong with you on the inside. It's gut related, I can assure you.

So, what did I do to heal my dermatitis? In a month? Yes, a month. You see, by this time, it was about 50 - 60% healed.

L-glutamine to the rescue! It's an amino acid that lines your intestines. I was taking an upwards of 20 GRAMS A DAY. I had AWFUL abdominal cramping, gas, bloating. Oh my god, I felt like my gallbladder was back and I was having an intense attack. I nearly went to the ER. Thankfully, I remembered "child's pose" (yoga position) and got into that. After a few minutes, and a couple of belches, the pain stopped, gas was relieved. DO NOT take too much l-glutamine, or you will suffer greatly!

NOW Foods is my favourite for brands. You can find them in 500mg or 1000mg capsules. I took 'em first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and didn't eat for at least 30 minutes to an hour. My morning dose was about 5000mg or 5 grams. I would take more later in the day, again on an empty stomach. My skin tingled, but in a good way. L-glutamine in powder form is nice too, if you don't like to take pills all the damn time.

I'm back to taking l-glutamine to continue healing my gut, and heal my food intolerances. I'm way too stubborn to go on GAPS. It's far too restrictive.

L-glutamine is a fucking miracle worker. A month. My skin was BEAUTIFUL AND CLEAR for the first time in almost a year.

I'm happy to help anyone dealing with this disgusting, foul skin condition. I cannot adequately put in to words how dismal my outlook was, how awful I felt when I looked in the mirror. I never covered it up with makeup, as I knew that would only aggravate it. I'm vain as hell and it was RUINING my self-esteem, my confidence. I was overjoyed, absolutely ecstatic and completely over the moon when I finally found out about l-glutamine.

A MONTH! I tell you. L-glutamine. She's my best friend EVAR.

D44e4c1586c3c782a99ff9f020cd2d3a

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on March 10, 2016
at 05:23 PM

I know I am late to this party...but hoping someone answers.  I am baffled as to why I am having a breakout of POD.  I have been predominantely paleo fully organic for years.. (if I edge out on the paleo curve its been time tested to only a little dairy (which gives me no probs if i keep to clean dairy..or rice every blue moon when I want Indian food in London)  Totally gluten/grain free...no processed ANYTHING. No sugar unless its occasional organic maple syrup or honey..I have cut out pretty much everything inflammatory (try to control stress as much as possible)...I use natural products (no flouride...SLS..etc)..take L-Glut..among a variety of top-line supplements..etc. You get the picture.  Back in January I came down with a horrible virus (the one that most people had in the western hemisphere)...it was the sickest I had been in years..lasted 2 wks...and never seemed to quite get out of my system.  At the exact same time, i got a spot in my nose (thinking it was a pimple from blowing my nose...I messed with it a bit..and went on with my day..the irritation spread a bit..but I still had a little bit of a runny nose so I just attributed the irritation to blowing my nose...then here I was 6 weeks later..and have this weird rash around my right nostril (I thought maybe its staph..or some bacteria from being sick)..went on a total cleanse..tightened everything up another notch (organic bone broth...cut out even eggs..no sugars/grains/nuts whatsoever..etc..) no change in rash by my nose...so went to Derm. He gave me an anti-bacteria cream took a swab to run some tests (cream made it worse)...so I stopped and then (big mistake) put hydrocortisone on it- thinking what could that hurt (cleared up for a couple days then wham came back big time..while i waited for tests I then also came down with a terrific cold over this past weekend (which felt like it was brewing the last month since I was sick in Jan).  So talked to derm yesterday, he said tests for anything bad like staph or the like are negative and said he believes its POD.  So any thoughts on it being connected to a virus that is still swimming in my system? I have managed to kick this cold's ass with serious natural remedies (pure Oregano oil with coconut oil, raw garlic and onion, lethal doses of Vit C..and have managed to recover after 4 days....I wasn't going back to where I was in Jan...but now i have this horrible POD under my nose on one side..and at a complete loss!! (side note- my derm wants me to take an oral antibiotic (which I refuse)...but i did use the Metronidazole cream last night and this morn out of desperation...and I do have graves disease for past 4 yrs-which I have kept under control through organic/paleo lifestyle mentioned above)...my overall skin has been supremely dry...but again, I am at a loss what to do..other than up my L-Glut intake...and meditate...I have read increase zinc intake?  Probiotic intake? I am contemplating upping my overall trace minerals (zinc, selenium and copper..which i have done for graves in the past)...but really any insight is greatly appreciated. 

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on January 07, 2013
at 03:35 AM

primalpat... THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE!! You have me giddy with excitement now hearing about your experience!! So what do you think it is about L-glutamine that helped?? I'm up for trying anything... seriously. This sounds pretty darn simple compared to what I've been trying so off to the shops I go this afternoon to buy me some...

197651282ddd8d675b974ee811d2269e

(1836)

on January 07, 2013
at 05:01 AM

I've had this problem and never knew that it wasn't acne until it I looked it up just now. I'm going to try L-glut. Thanks!

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on January 07, 2013
at 03:38 AM

ooops... I just reread your comments, so it lines the intestines... I never considered myself having gut issues but here we go... I'm up for a bit of harmless experimenting :-)

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on January 07, 2013
at 09:42 AM

I've never had acne in my life and all the other things like eczema, rosacea, seborrheic dermatitis, etc didn't line up and I've always had really good skin so it came as a rather big shock to me. At all costs, do NOT use steroid creams as this makes it worse and avoid treating with any commercial products as these simply aggravate and upset the natural sebum production of the skin. Keep me posted how you go!

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on January 09, 2013
at 01:31 AM

WOOWOO! Keep us posted!

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4176)

on January 09, 2013
at 12:05 AM

I got my L-glutamine in the mail today! Let the healing begin!

197651282ddd8d675b974ee811d2269e

(1836)

on January 18, 2013
at 06:27 AM

PrimalPat, what brand of L- glut do you use?

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on January 18, 2013
at 03:01 PM

I went through a few. I was using NOW and had the best success with it. Tried Organika...still did the trick, but was meh about it. Now I'm on Tropic brand, and I'm also kind of meh. NOW foods l-glut actually made my skin tingle not long after taking it. It helped me go to the bathroom too!!! I just found out a local shop has the large containers of NOW l-glut powder and the price is good. That's what I'll be buying once I run out.

1
59dfcdb223534fc87aaaf75aa984782a

on April 04, 2013
at 11:30 PM

I'm four months into Paleo and developed PD (confirmed by a dermotologist). This can't just be a coincidence, right? Could it be low carb? Too much protein (vs. my old diet)? I can't for the life of me figure out what this would start after going Paleo (I had fantastic skin prior to changing my diet, which I did to help me overcome Asthma). So while Paleo has done wonders for my Asthma, it appears to have destroyed my skin.

I'm hesitant to go back to my old way of eating for sure, but my skin has been flaking and peeling for weeks now. I will check on the supplements I take as I didn't take many supplements pre Paleo, that's an interesting thought...

But why would things get worse after starting Paleo for so many of us?

UPDATE: (4/9/13)

Thanks to PrimalPat's advice, I added potatos and am eating less protein. The rash is still there, but it's finally subsiding a little bit! I really think she's onto something... at first I had this "I must not be doing something right with following the Paleo diet" attitude, but my first clue something was amiss was my excessive weight loss. I have a small frame anyway, but I've completely lot my boobs, I'm now noticably underweight by anyone's definition. I'm starting to lose muscle. I tried eating more fat, more protein, but even though I initially felt amazing on Paleo, months later I felt weak and obviously now have this terrible face rash/itchy eyes. Adding in carbs has already helped. I theorize that Paleo did help me eliminate foods (e.g. gluten, diary) I was sensitive to, but my body needs more carbs than I was getting by following a typical Paleo way of eating. Onto a modified Paleo regime on my quest for better health!

UPDATE: (4/23/13)

Took a turn for the worst, so ended up going on Doxy. I'm on day 4 and my skin is pretty much 100% cleared up (only slight flaking in a few spots). I went from the most frightening PD images you've seen on the web to clear skin in no time with antibiotics. So if you're suffering, I say restore your self esteem and go for the antibiotics. And likely you need to eat more carbs. (Paleo without rice or potatoes has given me acid reflux I'm still struggling with -- never had it or any skin problems prior to Paleo).

59dfcdb223534fc87aaaf75aa984782a

(20)

on April 05, 2013
at 03:19 AM

Thanks for responding CoconutBliss! Would you say the antibiotics have done the trick for you? Probably too soon to say I would imagine. My dr. prescribed Protopic (which I will pick up tomorrow). Hopefully that does the trick. Interesting theory....

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on April 05, 2013
at 12:35 AM

I just hope my body will find its healthy new point of equilibrium soon!

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on April 05, 2013
at 12:35 AM

Hi Neko1717! I found it really strange too as I experienced something similiar to you. My personal theory goes, that a change in diet actually 'disturbed' the delicate balance of gut flora and hormones my body had found itself in (even though it was no doubt leaning on the side of being 'unhealthy', it was still functioning in its own way) and whatever it was, caused a bacterial stir up. So it's a shame that in an attempt to clean up our lifestyles and diet, we are faced with such problems but it just goes to show how delicate our bodies are to change and environmental disturbances, good & bad

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on April 05, 2013
at 12:35 AM

I just hope my body will find it's healthy new point of equilibrium soon!

59dfcdb223534fc87aaaf75aa984782a

(20)

on April 07, 2013
at 03:08 AM

Thanks much, primalpat... been eating lots of oranges today, we'll see if that helps! (been taking L-glut for awhile now...)

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on April 06, 2013
at 03:19 PM

I talked to Paul Jaminet about my past skin issues and he said it was probably malnourishment. He also said l-glutamine acts as carbs in the body and I could have done just as well eating a potato. EAT CARBS! But definitely try l-glut too :)

1
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on April 04, 2013
at 11:19 PM

If you use any products that have sls (sodium laureth sulfate) in them, you could be allergic. I stopped using any product (toothpaste, shampoo, conditioner, moisturizer, etc.) with this in it...and boom! (I use only organic, all natural products now...) Everything's back to normal. I think eating such a clean diet but continuing to put bad things on your skin is what the issue is. Try it out and see for yourself.

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on April 05, 2013
at 12:38 AM

Totally agree with eliminating SLS containing products. pre-paleo I was exposing my skin to all sorts of crap like this that no doubt contributed to its gradual susceptibility to problems

1
49157e20ff03eda4e48b50a7aabfc858

on March 30, 2013
at 01:56 PM

I suffered for 2 years from perioral dermatitis with little or no relief from creams and antibiotic. I finally spoke to my holistic Obgyn and she said it was yeast. I began Diflucan and a vaginal supository, changed my diet, started probiotics, and completely changed my bath and body products and in 3 day my rash was gone! I have read blog after blog trying to fight perioral dermatitis and I want to go back and tell women everywhere to treat themselves for yeast! I have had doctors and dermatologist simply ignore my questions and comments about yeast being the problem, but it was yeast all along. And I didn't even know I had a vaginal yeast infection. Do dome research on treating yeast. Good luck everyone.

1
A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4176)

on January 07, 2013
at 05:16 AM

Oh man, can I sympathize. I also abandoned commercial products about 9 months ago and adopted a paleo lifestyle about a year ago and everything is coming up roses.... except this scaly, flaky, permanently red thing with little white bumps in the crease of one nostril. Now it seems to have spread to the other nostril and I also have it on the sides of either side of my chin. Terrific.

I have hypothesized and disregarded the following theories about what this was before realizing it was perioral dermatitis: regular acne, rosacea, fructose intolerance, salicylate sensitivity (actually I do think I have this right now and have benefited from a low-sal diet everywhere except the skin), nightshade sensitivity, stress, vitamin d deficiency, mint allergy, casein allergy, blah blah blah. Been using all natural remedies for a year and nothing has changed this.

I have tried: no face washing, oil cleansing method, using coconut oil, jojoba oil, grapeseed oil, almond oil as moisturizers, no moisturizers, commercial moisturizers, low salicylate moisturizers, eating .5 lb / 1 lb / 1.5 lb liver per week, eating oysters every week, eating three oysters every day, eating tons of fermented foods, taking BioKult, backing off fermented foods and then slowly reintroducing them, evening primrose oil, borage seed oil, chromium, vitamin C, taking spoonfuls of coconut oil, eating a pound of salmon per week, taking high doses of vitamin D, taking fermented cod liver oil, incorporating two to three raw egg yolks every day, eating two brazil nuts every day, eating tons of leafy greens, autoimmune paleo, no nightshades, low salicylates, low FODMAPS, semi-pretend-working-persons-GAPs, yoga, changing my pillowcase every night, dead sea masks, kefir masks, nutmeg masks, honey masks, baking soda masks, sugar scrubs, tea tree oil...... and of course, 100 % clean paleo diet...you get the point. None of it works. Some times my nose thing is less terrible than other times but mostly it looks pretty grim. I use a mineral powder to cover it but I think it does a crappy job and I probably shouldn't even bother.

Sadly, I have nothing to offer as the solution, though I did just order some L glutamine (gracias, Pat). I agree with Pat - GAPS is too intense for me at this stage in my life. I will report back if the L glutamine helps. Actually, if the L-Glutamine works, you will know because I will hire a mariachi band to play in the house of every paleohacker and I will throw a parade.

I am getting married in five months and it would be really nice if I wasn't disfigured. Thanks for asking this question and I hope you find an answer.

Fb69d7fda9782616fd19fd967c8e3fdf

(0)

on April 06, 2016
at 05:29 AM

OH Man, everything you stated, mentioned is exactly what I've been going through and tried the last 6-8 months!!.... Please tell me you have found a cure or at least some answers!!! Did the L-Glutamine help? I tried this (20 grams daily) in the beginning but maybe I need to continue? Any more info, feedback would be greatly appreciated.

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on January 07, 2013
at 10:42 PM

lol ... it'll be party central on paleohacks i tell ya

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4176)

on January 07, 2013
at 02:21 PM

CB - I really hear you on the flaking piece of painted timber! Sometimes I put it on anyway just so people who are thinking "she should really cover that up" can go "oooh, she tried to cover that up." And Pat - this is do or die time with the L-glut! I have an appointment with the derm. at the end of next month. Desperately don't want whatever napalm they are peddling but I am just getting frantic to have it off. If L-glut works and I can cancel my appointment, I will seriously freak the shit out. Because of course I don't have insurance so it will be self-pay napalm.

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on January 07, 2013
at 11:15 AM

Marcy, I was about to get married when I finally discovered l-glutamine. I literally only had a few months left before the big day and there was no way I was going to have that shit on my face! I completely and totally sympathize!

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on January 08, 2013
at 12:13 AM

I will bet money that all y'all will be HEALED!!!! Promise. Party at my house. In Toronto. I don't care. Y'all are coming over.

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1673)

on January 07, 2013
at 11:17 AM

You can gradually up your dose to 20 grams a day. But be careful with overdoing it and don't go too fast, or take too large of a dose in one sitting. That reminds me: I need to take my l-glutamine!

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on January 07, 2013
at 09:30 AM

marcy marcy marcy... wow... firstly, you made me laugh. secondly, congratulations on the wedding to come. thirdly, you sound like my soul sister with this experience trying everything under the bloody sun that is as 'natural' as possible! (and probably rather unnatural if you were an outsider reading this) i totally agree, makeup and this 'disfigurement' do not agree. you end up looking like a flaking piece of painted timber. I have already taken my first 'dose' of l-glutamine. I'm gonna try taking 5g twice a day as pat recommended. Shouldn't have any side-effects. I'll keep ya posted too!!

0
4f8fff566e348c28fc427105d68b74ca

on August 17, 2016
at 04:57 PM

I did with a natural cream by mama nature called pro skin exema. At first the redness got worse then it calmed down and each day it faded until there was no more dermatitis.

0
05fb9343155ce1554840601ad70e71f7

on April 18, 2016
at 01:48 PM

Hello! I've been able to manage my perioral dermatitis naturally. It wasn't easy and it's a route I pursued when traditional treatments failed. I put up a little free website about my journey - if you google search "peri-oral autoimmune weebly" you can find it. Feel free to contact me through the website and I'd be happy to call or skype with you about it. I'm passionate about helping others! 

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A196b3d0cfcf7ec7d125de7335fd5655

on March 11, 2016
at 02:26 PM

Black Walnut Tea: I didn't look at all the answers so I don't know if anyone already said this but just in case I will post.

To solve your problem I would take a tea made from Black Walnut leaves and hulls.  My son had a fungal rash on his neck and shoulders. I gave him the tea 2 to 3 times a day for two weeks and it took away the problem. The skin is still a bit rough but I am going to continue the tea for another week to be sure. 

I make the tea like this:

Boil 5 cups of water, turn off the water and add about 2 Tbs of Black Walnut Tea (from the leaves) and about a 1/2 tsp of Black Walnut Hulls (they are crushed).  You can drink it after steeping for 20-30 minutes. I let the balance sit several hours and then strain the balance and keep it in the fridge in a mason jar.  Make more when you run out. 

My son likes it with milk but if you are Paleo you could add Almond Milk if you don't like the taste.

Hope this helps. 

0
05fb9343155ce1554840601ad70e71f7

on November 11, 2015
at 10:19 PM

Great job making so many positive lifesyle changes! You may need to cut out chemicals all together, not just on your face. I had to eliminate all store bought hair products, deodorant, lotion, toothpaste, sunscreen, bug spray, you name it! 

Also, you may benefit from essential face oils. If you google search peri-oral autoimmune weebly my little free website will come up and you can read my personal timeline of healing perioral dermatitis naturally! 

0
49d8e65b6bfc3a77107a89453d1aa2eb

on January 21, 2014
at 07:25 PM

Toothpaste & mouthwash can contribute to PD. Especially synthetic toothpaste. Try Toms or Nature's gate brands. Or make your own.

0
6f32c30fdc0528b9be8517ef86cfb9e8

(0)

on January 20, 2014
at 09:18 PM

I DID!!!!!!

I suffered with perioral dermatitis for more than 3 years. Went to the doctor, the meds helped a little but really didnt work, researched many natural options instead including essential oils, the mixture of apple cider vinegar and borax really helped keeping the bumbs, redness and itching under control, but not to get completely rid of it. Started eating healthier to keep my organism clean. Etc. Etc. Etc... I tried many things.

Finally just a few months ago, i am finally clear of it!!! GONE! I still cant believe it!! A friend of mine here in san diego told me she could help me resolve the problem, or at least give it a try with biomagnetism. I had no idea what that was. She explained she would place small magnets where i had an inbalance alkaline or acidic, the magnets would normalize my PH and my body would be able to heal itself killing any bacteria or virus that was causing the problem. Of course I tried it since it was non-invasive and ph was what the vinegar was helping with anyways. I am soooo glad i did. I felt a difference the next day, the itching stopped, although the bumps and redness were still there i saw how they gradually started drying up and the redness was less every day. I cleanse my face with juicy beauty blemish clearing cleanser, used the serum too the first couple of months, i dont have to use it anymore!, and a basic burts bee moisturizing cream for daytime, i use the sensitive one. I read soooooo many blogs and websites trying to find answers, now that my skin is clear i feel i should share what worked for me. Good luck!

0
5950bb017384e6106da4867835e85882

on November 21, 2013
at 01:08 AM

Okay, so here is what worked for me: I stopped using any sulfate cleansers, shampoos, etc. I haven't switched out my toothpaste though. I am using burt's bees orange oil cleanser and sometimes adding a drop of tea tree oil to it, every once in a while I use Dr. Bronner's mild baby bar soap, but that is still pretty harsh and dries me out. I am using argan oil as a moisturizer (100% pure) where before I was using kiehl's, and I put tea tree oil on the spots. All of the itching and bumps are gone, and almost all of the redness. I just got some nixoderm in the hopes that that will be the icing on the cake, and the redness will be gone!

As a bonus, the argan oil has made my skin look amazing. Pores smaller, my skin is glowing, and I used to be super oily in the T-zone, but not anymore! Less oil by using oil... awesome!

0
5d7edd3f25ea35f484119dec2f69916d

on September 06, 2013
at 06:43 PM

Hi, I have just recently got rid of my pd...and I feel it is only fair that I post about what cured me considering blogs and help on the Internet was truly what kept me sane(or I would have been in the doctors every day!) My doctor perscribed topical antibiotics (dalacin t, metrogel and then later duac once daily which burnt)and none really worked. I found Greek yoghurt masked helped, limiting alcohol intake and taking zinc tablets also helped reduce how angry and red my PD got. Evening promise oil tablets help with hormone balance, and whilst I'm not sure they are the answer for everyone I really feel PD is linked to hormones so those who find theirs flaring around their period perhaps should try it... HOWEVER...to actually cute it (and I mean it literally halved the rash overnight and was gone by the end of the week) could have been one of three things which I tried at the same time(so maybe consider the following): 1. Oral antibiotics -tetralysal(I'm taking them for 1 month) 2. Daktarin - the last doc I saw felt that the PD looked fungal...daktarin is used for athletes foot, and may have cured me. Be warned...my doc tried to get me to use this with a hydrocortisone cream not knowing that this is the worst thing to put on PD... Please do not apply steriod creams to PD!!!!!!! 3. Removal of the copper coil.... My PD started around the same time as having the copper coil fitted, the time I had PD I really felt it was allergic and I was taking a lot of antihistamines as I felt itchy...reading about metal allergy and allergic reactions to the copper coil made me consider this as the culprit.

I don't know which of the 3 did the trick, but I can't begin to tell you the relief... And I feel for anyone who had this. Please consider the above if you are struggling and these could be an option..and good luck finding your cure.

Kate.

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E2a50a98e334d07a51f22e5de8d12a28

on September 02, 2013
at 07:47 PM

Research demodex. An overgrowth causes rosacea, bulbous nose, flaking skin at eyebrows and eyelids. Stress, alcohol, onions, garlic will feed the mites so eliminate.

0
1563993b7381fa9c5dae5a19568680ec

on August 07, 2013
at 04:22 PM

Just wanted to post that I've suffered PD the last 6 months or so (started in pregancy) so thinking hormones was a huge issue for me - anyways I tried Osmia Organics facial products and it was amazing. It's a little spendy but it worked for me and it's probably 95% cleared up - just a couple small spots by my nose after being all around my mouth, chin and starting to go along my jaw towards my ears. So, this stuff was a miracle for me along with getting rid of any products with SLS, adding a probiotic, and NOT putting makeup on the area.

http://www.osmiaorganics.com/gifts/facial-care-starter-sets/facial-care-starter-set-3/

http://www.osmiaorganics.com/articles/perioral-dermatitis

I hope this helps someone out there - this was the most embarrassing rash to have to deal with on a daily basis!!

0
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on August 02, 2013
at 03:47 PM

hi every one just wondering if eating clove garlic every day would help it as is natural antibiotic going to try this for myself

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E608870ae77c5975a13d8711eeaac7d1

on August 02, 2013
at 03:45 PM

hi every one just wondering if eating clove garlic every day would help it as is natural antibiotic going to try this for myself

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15a0a7bbb649091271b19de202f69936

on July 25, 2013
at 04:57 PM

I found that Zinc helps alot...I get the supplements and also an all natural zinc sunscreen that disappears into the face after a minute. I have never worn foundation but I did have excema, from food allergies, so i did use a topical steriod for my face when i was younger. I really think that this thinned my skin in those areas which are now affected by POD. But now that everything is in check with my health ..I don't get it anymore..if I feel a flare up coming I put the zinc cream on and make sure i take my Zinc everyday...

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2d011518cddaf5c21df5716ed4b85a12

on July 14, 2013
at 12:18 PM

I had perioral dermatitis when I was 9-10 and got it again this winter. Before I even allowed it to spread all around my mouth, I was way too vain so I quickly got some strong hydrocortisone cream. That helped but my dermatologis said that I couldn't stay on it forever b/c it would thin my skin and get into my bloodstream blah blah blah...he tried to give me a strong antibiotic and I said hell no b/c I remember taking 2 or 3 rounds when I was young for this and it kept coming back. So, I've also had other health stuff this year and in the past which relates to my immune system and I know it's off. I won't go into details b/c some are girl specific but I did have bad IBS right when my skin flared up bad. Long story short, I went to see a holistic doctor. We talked about my gut and cleansing from the inside to heal the skin. I was wishy washy at first about doing a candida cleanse and just took the strong pro/pre biotics she gave me but didn't commit to the diet. About 7 days ago, I finally ditched the steroids and my face broke out like crazy around my nose/mouth and even up by my eye. So, for the last 6 days, I have been a freak. Here's what I did and again, I don't know if it could help but I cannot BELIEVE how much my face has improved in just week. I woke up today and could barely see any bumps or redness. I- cut out all sugar, starches, and dairy ate a crap load of veggies (juicing, even adding garlic) took the strong pro/pre biotic, as well as other vitamins I started with apple cider vinegar on my face twice a day but it burned and dried it way out. So I switched to violet (look online) oil twice a day on the are and finished with pure coconut oil only on top Also, every night this week, I did a plain greek yogurt mask for about 15 minutes. Besides that, I didn't touch my face. I would say it's 90% gone but I know if I hop back on the sugar train, it will resurface. I plan (God help me) to do this candida diet for a good 3 months and I can tell you the book if you are interested. I think it's called the Candida Cure. Oh, and one biggie that I think helped is that I got a prescription for Diflucan, which treats yeast infections (it's a pill). It was a two pack and I took one pill one day and the next 3 days later. It helps jumpstart the candida overgrowth... I guess my regime has been a combo of advice from this holistic doctor, the book, and my personal assistant- the Internet. Oh, and I did give up sulfate products awhile back (toothpaste and shampoo and conditioner). Good luck!

0
582a2c33ad87999f5f933a311195a46f

on July 08, 2013
at 02:24 PM

I don't have time to read all the responses, but 15 years ago I was diagnosed. All it took was for me to stop using ANY and ALL products with sodium laurel sulfate. NO toothpaste with it or shampoo. I am very careful about using any product with this detergent in it.

0
D23602221f5f5db803f8dfb061d2979f

on June 17, 2013
at 04:29 PM

I have been using a cream by mama nature (proskins eczema) and it has been a godsend for me in every respect. All of my perioiral dermatitits has vanished and the skin around my mouth is much more supple than ever before. I was thinking of using it on my entire face. I will probably send mama nature an e-mail and ask if it can be used as a general moisturiser. The akin around my mouth skin used to be lumpy/bumpy and dark and rashy. No signs of any of that anymore. My confidence has been lifted.

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5453f7f16d93db491674cb7a306b5f53

on June 08, 2013
at 01:59 PM

Unscented African black soap to cleanse and plain vegetable glycerin to moisturize. All-natural mineral makeup to cover as needed. For my perioral dermatitis, this combination was a miracle. (I'm used to using natural and essential oils for every skin problem, but in my experience for this condition you really have to stop using all oils.)

0
B5bb4f39bbcea87e172477891b7a9c67

on June 01, 2013
at 04:21 PM

I had a small rash begin next to my lower nose and thought it was poison ivy as I had been gardening a few days ealier. Stupid me tried to put an old lotion of steriod gel on it and omg, I looked like Bozo the Clown the next day and had to actually call in at work (because I work with the public and was so red with the rash - call it vanity but whatever.)

After reading your common symptoms and cures, I immediately went up and got some Chobani plain greek yogurt (for face masks) and zinc supplements (as that's one of the causes of POD.

I've now used three greek yogurt face masks (they get dry out/start getting crackley after an hour so I rinse off w/ warm water and apply a fresh coat.) OMG...it feels so cooling and healing and I swear, after only about four hours, my rash is barely visible and my skin feels so much better.

I will try to reply to any questions/comments later...but right now I am a happy girl and think this is the home remedy that probably could be patented. POD sometimes can simply be a yeast infection and the greek plain yogurt mask applied several times a day (plus zinc supplements) just may be the cure. Good luck and let me know if this works for you!

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D23602221f5f5db803f8dfb061d2979f

on May 22, 2013
at 04:28 PM

YES

I'm not saying it will work for everyone because I am not that stupid but I use proskin eczema by mama nature of London and it not only got rid of it but it has not returned dinceI got rid of it 6 months ago. This cream is natural and you can tell it is a quality prodcut when you see the packaging and smell the contents. It does not smell synthetic and chemically like most creams. The cream lasted me about three months.

0
B6d5fe0a0a643e2f0bf056e5a9f1125b

on April 30, 2013
at 01:40 AM

Might sound strange but try 1 t. borax (salt is more toxic according to MSDS sheets), 1 t. hydrogen peroxide, 3 t. purified water and 2-3 drops of lavender oil. Let the borax dissolve and then apply the liquid to your face with a cotton ball.

I had PD for 4 months. After applying this overnight 70% of my small red dots were gone. Some say PD is caused by the dermamites (which most of us have) dying and leaving bacteria. The mixture kills the mites and the bacteria. Worth a try!! Mine is not 100% gone but I now can go out without make-up.

Primal 2 years, tried dairy free to solve it but didn't make a difference.

TJS

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6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on April 07, 2013
at 01:18 PM

For temporary relief that lasts longer than just plain coconut oil, make your own hard lotion at home using 1 part beeswax with 2 parts coconut oil. This can be used as lotion or lip balm. It's long lasting, natural, and waterproof.

Here is a basic recipe you can tinker with to meet your needs:

http://www.instructables.com/id/Easy-homemade-coconut-and-beeswax-lip-balm/

0
56ee3d5f8fa7cf101f2aee31b4243ba8

on April 07, 2013
at 06:25 AM

Arrgghhh about 8 weeks ago I moved to Wellington for uni and within a week I had some weird rash on my chin appear... It is STILL there now and I have finally worked out that it is perioral dermatitis. I have tried everything.. Apple cider vinegar, probiotic yogurt, coconut oil etc etc. It just stubbornly stays there :(. It's only on my chin but it seriously affects self-confidence and no makeup will hide it properly (plus it only aggrivates in more). I have heard lots of people saying anti biotics helped but I'm a little skeptical. What's the best cure?! I'm going nuts here.

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on April 07, 2013
at 11:13 PM

Since you are in NZ though, you could try getting your hands on some Manuka Honey and using that to see if it helps the sores. No guarentee but it did help me to an extent when mine got REALLY bad.

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on April 07, 2013
at 11:12 PM

Sorry to hear this. I know exactly what you're going through. It's such a tricky situation because unless you know yourself what the cause was (e.g. a change in cosmetics or face products that have harsh chemicals, or a highly stressful event, or hormonal imbalance), doctor's will have a hard time figuring it out for you because there is no 1 cause for everyone. It flares up for different reasons. For me, it sucks to say, but it was only antibiotics that could clear it up. I didn't have anything else that could be easily diagnosed like candida.

0
4886d3390cb1de913ecc198e72cc072c

on March 30, 2013
at 08:37 PM

Some holistic experts say all skin problems are due to parasites & fungal infections. Watch this video from Paul Chek http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJnH2n3yvvk. He has several videos on the subject. Haven't tried his "program" that he speaks of... His program is probably just to change your diet (similar to Paleo) and do a parasite cleanse which helps, but I found that using a parasite zappers works best. https://rawsynergy.wordpress.com/2011/03/31/18/

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on April 11, 2013
at 12:06 PM

Paul Jaminet told me in an email that my skin issues were most likely caused by malnourishment and lack of carbs.

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on March 24, 2013
at 08:32 AM

I have suffered with PD for 2 years and have tried EVERYTHING you can imagine for it. The ONLY thing that works is extra virgin olive oil and powdered sugar. You make a lotion paste with these two ingredients, put it on your face and leave it on all day and night until its gone. Typically will take 5-9 days to dissapear. THIS WORKS AND IS A MIRACLE!!! This is the ladie's website that I found it on. I promised if I found a cure I would post it and here you go!! http://dawnmarie4.wordpress.com/2012/09/07/a-little-bit-of-sugar/#comment-4138

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on February 01, 2013
at 04:01 AM

(Adding this as a second answer since it is too long as a comment)

I tried and am still trying the L-Glut but my face has taken a turn for the way, way, way worse. I completely agree that there is a gut connection but after a year of trying to eat perfectly, I am going to focus again on the topical stuff (while still eating very clean). I know that the root cause of THAT is gut issues, but I am working on that. I have been taking the L Glut for a few weeks and did notice a slight improvement at first but I can't really tell now.

I, very foolishly, bought Nature's Gate Oh What A Night Walnut Therapy moisturizer after reading some rave reviews about it. I was not as vigilant about the ingredients and after using it once, my face went bananas. The redness is very pronounced, all the little bumps became horribly infected and the lymph nodes all under my jaw and even along my mouth are painfully and hugely inflamed. WHAT THE HELL?! I checked on the Environmental Working Group's cosmetic page and this moisturizer has a bad rating.

I ordered some grapefruit seed extract to take orally and apply topically. It seems like the online reviews for this are really positive and I really hope it can help things along. I also bought jugs of distilled water to wash my face with and drink, since it seems like fluoride is a huge trigger and my water filter doesn't remove fluoride.

I am so depressed about this. I am not vain. I don't care about being super beautiful, I just don't want people to stare at me for looking all circus faced.

I will update if the GSE helps....

UPDATE:

I've been ashamed to post this, but I defected and went to the dermatologist. I have been obsessively trying every imaginable hack for the last year and a half (and other natural acne remedies for years before that). It wasn't working and I was developing a very unhealthy sense of failure that I was doing something wrong and was bringing this on myself. Not to mention, I have some scars. I caved in and went to the dermatologist. I was really surprised because she said she thought this strange perioral dermatitis / rosacea thing I have is just acne - and that even if it isn't, the treatment could improve it. I fought her on it, but she spent an hour with me going over my entire history and concerns about treatment, so I am going to go out on a limb and trust her a little bit. This is the part I am so embarrassed about: she put me on a very low dose of antibiotics called Oracea (apparently controls inflammation without getting into the antibacterial part much) and Retin-A. I am an antibiotics person!! I am not proud. But, it has been a week and this is clearing up FAST. The stubborn spots on my chin are flaking pretty heavily but it is like that scene from The Craft where they peel the scars off.

I am going to abandon the antibiotics as soon as it is under control and just use the Retin-A. I have researched the ever living hell out of it and I am comfortable with that. And honestly, I think the trade off of the stress and sense of failure and embarrassment I feel every day because of my face is worse than the topical meds.

Anyway, I felt the need to confess that I am a dirty conventional medicine follower for this one thing. Please don't judge!

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on February 01, 2013
at 10:23 PM

I've heard about the fluoride thing too. Check your toothpaste as well. My next experiment will be to attempt a bit of a detox next week in an attempt to clean up my gut and rid the body of any bugs I might have picked up overseas and to up the anti on my probiotics. Playing this one day by day!!

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(1930)

on February 01, 2013
at 10:19 PM

oh no marcy! Sorry to hear about this! Definitely eliminate all cosmetics and creams stat! I have only be using 100% natural products, like coconut oil, jojoba oil, paw paw and 100% cocoa butter which keeps the area moisturized. Similar to you, I saw a big improvement in the first week or so but now it just seems to have plateaued. My holiday away actually helped even though my diet was not as clean because I wasn't touching or continuously playing with my skin which I have a tendency to do when at work etc. because no doubt, I'm still self conscious about it. I totally get your pain!!

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on February 02, 2013
at 12:05 AM

I am going to continue with the L-Glut and healing the gut, too. I think that is the real root of all the evil. But until it is healed, I am going to focus on eliminating all the topical problems. I will post back in a few days and if this is making the P.D. go away, I will definitely sound it from the rooftops!

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on February 02, 2013
at 12:02 AM

Hey, so I got the GSE in the mail this morning and I swear it is doing something (I always think that when I try a new hack - must be some powerful placebo effect!). My lymph nodes which were grotesquely swollen and painful have seriously calmed down and it is crazy, but I think my face is pretty noticeably less red! Thankfully, I am working on a project at home for the next week, so I can hole up and wear no make up and have strange potions on my face without scaring people on the street! I use Teeth Chips (saponified oils) to brush with, so I def. blame the evil new moisturizer.

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on November 21, 2013
at 02:29 AM

Have you ever tried stopping the paleo diet and eat normal for a couple of months?

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on January 21, 2013
at 10:53 PM

Well hot dog this is exciting. I have the same issue. Mine seems to be mild.. and intermittent. It started last winter when I was doing a lot of outdoor running. Silly me, I just kept thinking it was aggravated dry skin because of the weather and just kept covering it with makeup. Over the summer it more or less went away.. but it has come back in the last few months.

I have come to the same conclusion that it is gut related. I started a supp with L-Glut about 6 days ago and no real change yet.. we shall see. I am thinking since it was better in the summer... likely because I was tan.. I wonder if getting some sun (in a tanning bed) would help?

Maybe one day I will get back that clear skin that I used to love and never have to cover with makeup. I used to scoff at foundation wearers. Sigh.. karma is indeed a bitch.

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on January 22, 2013
at 01:57 AM

I read that the sun aggravates the damn derm. I can't comment, as the early stages of mine were pretty shitty and during the early spring/summer. Way before I discovered the amazing l-glut.

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on January 18, 2013
at 03:20 PM

Hi Marcia,

My skin issues erupted not long after my gallbladder and appendix were removed. From what I've read since then, the appendix also houses some flora. Now top that off with a compromised digestion system sans gallbladder, and I think my gut just freaked the fuck OUT.

That's my theory. I could be wrong. Since l-glut did the trick, who KNOWS what really caused all of this.

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on January 22, 2013
at 01:50 PM

Well shit. Good to know.. wish my naturopath would've told me that little tidbit. Thanks!

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on January 21, 2013
at 10:57 PM

Pat, if I may, do you take your L-Glut on an empty stomach?

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on January 22, 2013
at 01:56 AM

Usually. First thing in the morning, but sometimes after having tea. I don't see an issue with a belly full of a hot mug of tea. But when I was healing my skin, it was absolutely on an empty stomach, no tea or anything.

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on January 22, 2013
at 11:34 PM

I learned a long time ago...that we need to be our own advocate :)

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on January 18, 2013
at 04:15 AM

WTF? Pardon my french, but where is all this perioral dermatitis coming from? I too was eating Paleo for about 8 months when this started. I'm excited to learn about the l-glutamine, which - coincidentally - I was just adding to my regimen anyway. But is this coincidental? Or could it be somehow related to the Paleo WoE and maybe the gut healing process? I don't really expect answers, but it sure is a thought-provoking question. To me, anyway. :D Thanks to all who posted here.

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on January 18, 2013
at 05:19 AM

Hey Marcia! From my research so far, a large number of cases have no known cause but it seems to be more prevalant in females around the age of 20-45. I think a number of factor contributed to it in my case such as leaky gut, cosmetic reactions, and hormones. But it's hard to pin down on any one thing. I'm thinking of also trying zinc supplements

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(1930)

on January 18, 2013
at 05:20 AM

Hey Marcia! From my research so far, a large number of cases have no known cause but it seems to be more prevalant in females around the age of 20-45. I think a number of factors could have contributed to it in my case such as leaky gut, cosmetic reactions, and hormones. But it's hard to pin down on any one thing. I'm thinking of also trying zinc supplements

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on January 25, 2013
at 07:33 PM

Thanks for this, C'Bliss! I'm afraid I've succumbed to "modern" medicine. I'm using topical metronidazole, and it does seem to be helping. For reference, I'm 55, Hashimoto's, and taking anastrozole (breast cancer treatment). Lord knows what my hormones are doing.... :D

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on January 07, 2013
at 04:50 AM

I've heard ghee works wonders on skin issues too.

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(1930)

on January 07, 2013
at 09:43 AM

Any idea if there's something in particular about ghee that would be more suitable than say, coconut oil?

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