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After a decade of vegatarianism, veganism & raw foodism, I'm transitioning to high protein paleo! My eye whites are no longer white (mostly yellowish)!!! i am a little worried... Any ideas/advice?

Commented on May 04, 2014
Created May 02, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Truth is, as damaging as my diet has been to my health (long list), my eyes were always sparkling!

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on May 04, 2014
at 12:53 AM

I know it's cliche but… how about a balanced diet? Enough protein and carbs/fat for energy.

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on May 03, 2014
at 06:51 PM

First, nitrogen balance (the metabolic rsidue of protein consumption) does not effect the liver's ability to process bilirubin -- excess fat does. And damage to liver has been theorized based on observational studies (and you know my feelings about those). Kidney damage has been seen in high protein, low nutrient diets. And by high protein they are talking about 50% of calories or more -- that's a shit ton of protein

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on May 03, 2014
at 03:21 PM

No, but it can upset the liver, especially an already damaged liver, and AFAIK jaundice and yellow eyes are related to liver problems...

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on May 03, 2014
at 01:06 AM

too much is too much. but over eating protein will not turn your eyes yellow.

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on May 03, 2014
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protein does not make your eyes yellow

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on May 02, 2014
at 08:00 PM

I don't think too much fat would cause any problems in the majority of people. Too much protein could be problematic though.

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on May 02, 2014
at 07:30 PM

I guess there are crazies everywhere. :)

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you should read some of the crap Paleo people say.... for example: http://paleohacks.com/questions/216947/ketosis-and-psychic-ability.html

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so can too much fat....

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on May 02, 2014
at 10:04 PM

Immediate red flag: "high protein paleo"

Particularly if your body has become acclimated to a low-protein vegan diet.

There is nothing good about a high-protein diet. wtfgod and bluekitty hit it on the head. In your case, unless you've taken up radical body building (which I also find silly) I'd suggest more like 8-15% of calories from protein, working up slowly to 15. Maybe 50-80 grams per day.

The paleo diet is all about eating a wide variety of natural whole foods with a major emphasis on veggies! We eat more veggies than your typical vegan. (most of us anyway)

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on May 03, 2014
at 01:06 AM

protein does not make your eyes yellow

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on May 03, 2014
at 03:21 PM

No, but it can upset the liver, especially an already damaged liver, and AFAIK jaundice and yellow eyes are related to liver problems...

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on May 02, 2014
at 06:07 PM

Agree with bluekitty.

I would note that ideally you want to get 10-35% of your calories from protein or up to something like 1g per lb of lean body weight ( Or ideal body weight if building ). If you're on a HIGH PROTEIN ( Majority of macros ) diet that is really bad and should not be done.

On a tangent, I listened to a 'raw food summit' for the luls...it was painful. Apparently eating raw vegan increases your psychic abilities...I shit you not, this was said.

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on May 02, 2014
at 07:12 PM

you should read some of the crap Paleo people say.... for example: http://paleohacks.com/questions/216947/ketosis-and-psychic-ability.html

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on May 02, 2014
at 06:00 PM

why would you eat high protein anyways? Go high fat! Too much protein can cause all kinds of symptoms!

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on May 02, 2014
at 06:47 PM

so can too much fat....

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on May 04, 2014
at 12:53 AM

I know it's cliche but… how about a balanced diet? Enough protein and carbs/fat for energy.

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on May 02, 2014
at 02:15 PM

Are your eyes: yellow, orange-ish, or off-white?

Yellow eyes are not a good sign. There is nothing benign that could cause the eyes to yellow. While the paleo diet did not turn your eyes yellow, it is possible that you triggered a latent jaundice issue with your liver's ability to process bilirubin by putting extra load on the system (i.e. more fat). The other possibilities (cancer, hep, etc) would just be coincidental.

Orange-ish or off-white are typically not as big a concern and is typical of carotenosis. Although I would assume you ate more squash, sweet potato, and carrots previously.

A proper, physical medical exam is absolutely necessary -- As in now, not tomorrow or whenever you can get to it.

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on May 02, 2014
at 12:52 PM

Welcome, glad to see you are plan on making a diet change. "Yellowish" eyes are concerning as that can be a classic sign of jaundice indicating something may be wrong with your liver function. A good first step would be to see a doctor and have your labs (LFTs - liver function test) checked to see what is going on. Please don't wait on this, you only have one liver; best to take care of it.

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