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Tortillas, how evil are they?

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Created December 22, 2010 at 9:00 PM

How evil are tortillas?

Eabb49dc059e7de35cdc11d1b9aea31f

(56)

on January 05, 2013
at 11:20 PM

No recipe, but local places around here serve them

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

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on December 31, 2012
at 12:21 AM

have a recipe?

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on May 21, 2012
at 06:09 PM

That is why chain restaurants are generally horrible in all respects. They even screw up the real food.

Fe6e37f8d4c49de1ecbc926c8900cd54

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on May 06, 2012
at 06:51 PM

I grind it dry, but I think that would work too.

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

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on May 06, 2012
at 12:13 PM

how do you sprout corn? I never heard of that...

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

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on May 06, 2012
at 12:13 PM

So would you make these tortillas with pre-soaked quinoa, then ground like in a blender or something, with the 1/4c water the recipe calls for?

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on May 06, 2012
at 03:16 AM

I think (???) that the point was more that tortillas don't require added fat. I've never made mine with lard or any other fat. It's just water, salt, masa.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78427)

on May 06, 2012
at 12:39 AM

Why is lard(from a pastured pig) any worse than the corn? Neither, knowingly, pass my lips, but I place them at about an equal sub-optimal paleo level.(about a third tier level)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 05, 2011
at 09:30 PM

Just found some sprouted corn tortillas today. www.foodforlife.com Wanted to try some corn back in after 6 weeks without it. It has the standard ingredients list: (sprouted) organic corn, sea salt and lime. Hoping sprouting will fix some of the lectins corn is known to have and make them more digestible. Worth a try for a planned non-paleo treat.

Fe6e37f8d4c49de1ecbc926c8900cd54

(1902)

on February 08, 2011
at 05:50 PM

That's a good point--if you buy the pre-ground stuff it's iffy. But usually I grind my own flours (coffee grinders are magic) these days for $$ concerns, and always take the proper precautions with quinoa.

F034ee9771c7ac0e1832fc104c116379

(90)

on February 07, 2011
at 11:40 PM

I would partially agree...if the quinoa was soaked and rinsed clean of the saponin.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on February 07, 2011
at 07:48 PM

I lost my taste for them too. I used to love corn tortillas.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on February 07, 2011
at 07:47 PM

The tortilla in Toy Story 3 didn't hold up so well and he was made of flour. I suspect he was a mere minion of the Dark One.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 23, 2010
at 03:18 AM

My sister makes fabulous homemade corn tortillas! They are a bit too labor intensive for me.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on December 23, 2010
at 03:15 AM

+1 for D&D references

07c86972a3bea0b0dc17752e9d2f5642

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on December 23, 2010
at 01:16 AM

True. Real flour tortillas are made with lard (and if I could have gluten again I would cheat like crazy on them, good thing I can't!).

07c86972a3bea0b0dc17752e9d2f5642

(3162)

on December 23, 2010
at 01:09 AM

It's rare to come across corn tortillas that have wheat flour in them. That's just not how they're made. But this is why you should never assume the obvious.

64242a1130eb51f4852f78beed38b3d5

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on December 23, 2010
at 12:47 AM

I've seen that. Damned if you do....

1759614d2ac38131d8004c50da2d9899

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on December 22, 2010
at 10:20 PM

See King Corn, then you will realize..

64242a1130eb51f4852f78beed38b3d5

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on December 22, 2010
at 09:20 PM

Thank you for your contribution, my paleo/primal dogma is a bit off lately.

64242a1130eb51f4852f78beed38b3d5

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on December 22, 2010
at 09:18 PM

I have to lean to corn.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 22, 2010
at 09:09 PM

Flour tortillas or corn tortillas?

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628978d2e1ae51dd97afd9c35f699b75

on December 22, 2010
at 11:24 PM

Corn tortillas aren't perfect, but passing up good tacos because of a couple of them would be the greater evil. Sure there are better options, like doing a lettuce wrap, rice torts, or turning your tacos into a salad, but that's not what you asked.

If you've had the rest of your diet locked down for a while and can handle a small cheat without spiraling into a week-long binge, I say eff the Paleonazis and enjoy your corn tort tacos with a NorCal margarita.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78427)

on April 05, 2011
at 09:30 PM

Just found some sprouted corn tortillas today. www.foodforlife.com Wanted to try some corn back in after 6 weeks without it. It has the standard ingredients list: (sprouted) organic corn, sea salt and lime. Hoping sprouting will fix some of the lectins corn is known to have and make them more digestible. Worth a try for a planned non-paleo treat.

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on December 22, 2010
at 09:12 PM

A TORTILLA KILLED MY DOG WHILE WORSHIPPING SATAN. EVIL.

But seriously, flour ones are bad gluten juju and should absolutely be avoided. Corn tortillas are not good for you, but are not a horrible, horrible "cheat" (though nasty, rancid oil-fried tortilla chips are a bad idea, no matter how delicious). If you can get traditionally fermented corn tortillas (you will probably have to make these yourself unless you live in Chiapas, etc. or hang out with persons of indigenous Mesoamerican descent), those are OK by me. Some people make coconut "tortillas" which I haven't tried and which sound weird.

In summary: flour = chaotic evil; corn = neutral evil; fermented corn = chaotic good?; coconut = unknown, possible lawful good

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on December 23, 2010
at 03:15 AM

+1 for D&D references

64242a1130eb51f4852f78beed38b3d5

(1343)

on December 22, 2010
at 09:20 PM

Thank you for your contribution, my paleo/primal dogma is a bit off lately.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on February 07, 2011
at 07:47 PM

The tortilla in Toy Story 3 didn't hold up so well and he was made of flour. I suspect he was a mere minion of the Dark One.

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8287c6ddae0d78eae0a09fdd5999617c

(2581)

on December 23, 2010
at 01:07 AM

The traditional preparation of corn before cooking is soaking in an alkaline solution, this is called nixtamalization which frees up the niacin in the corn. Nixtamalized cornmeal is called masa. When Europeans began growing corn as a staple food without this, they developed the terrible deficiency disease pellagra. Of course, pellagra is only a problem if you base most of your diet off corn.

Evil? No. But I don't use such words for any food. There could be evil people involved in production of any food, but I don't think you could say corn is evil, unless it's been spliced with octopus DNA, then it is an abomination....

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Fe6e37f8d4c49de1ecbc926c8900cd54

on February 07, 2011
at 03:36 PM

I would avoid both. These, however, taste awesome and are totally paleo: http://paleograd.blogspot.com/2011/02/paleo-corn-tortillas.html

Fe6e37f8d4c49de1ecbc926c8900cd54

(1902)

on February 08, 2011
at 05:50 PM

That's a good point--if you buy the pre-ground stuff it's iffy. But usually I grind my own flours (coffee grinders are magic) these days for $$ concerns, and always take the proper precautions with quinoa.

F034ee9771c7ac0e1832fc104c116379

(90)

on February 07, 2011
at 11:40 PM

I would partially agree...if the quinoa was soaked and rinsed clean of the saponin.

Fe6e37f8d4c49de1ecbc926c8900cd54

(1902)

on May 06, 2012
at 06:51 PM

I grind it dry, but I think that would work too.

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

(5043)

on May 06, 2012
at 12:13 PM

So would you make these tortillas with pre-soaked quinoa, then ground like in a blender or something, with the 1/4c water the recipe calls for?

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Cfccbcf3450ac4919311ded8ef162d49

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on December 23, 2010
at 01:47 AM

seeing as how most corn these days is genetically modified and most likely wheat, too - both are evil in my book

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0c0c5c65612425e497b7231c21516943

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on December 22, 2010
at 10:31 PM

I was in a Mexican restaurant this weekend. We consciously try to be Paleo and Gluten free, but I do allow the kids non glutinous grains. I ordered corn tortillas for their meal, as I usually do, and I told the waitress that we were avoiding Gluten. Out ran the chef and said that all tortillas, including corn, had flour in them as a binder. Wondering how many other mexican restaurants do this?

Most corn is GMO, so maybe better to avoid it all anyway.

07c86972a3bea0b0dc17752e9d2f5642

(3162)

on December 23, 2010
at 01:09 AM

It's rare to come across corn tortillas that have wheat flour in them. That's just not how they're made. But this is why you should never assume the obvious.

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on May 21, 2012
at 06:09 PM

That is why chain restaurants are generally horrible in all respects. They even screw up the real food.

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A089b683ee0498f2b21b7edfa300e405

on December 23, 2010
at 04:04 AM

The only problem with anything 'corn' nowadays is one is not sure if it is Monsanto monster GMO corn. I would be specially wary of anything GMO.

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127116e41acceee9f2f000076f8b788d

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on December 23, 2010
at 03:59 AM

real tortillas are made with lard, water, flour (corn or wheat). They are super easy to make at home, and millions of people make them daily.

I would go for corn ones, myself, and use home-grown corn, preferably sprouted. I can make a batch of 2 dozen in about 20 minutes.

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

(5043)

on May 06, 2012
at 12:13 PM

how do you sprout corn? I never heard of that...

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Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

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on December 22, 2010
at 09:30 PM

Corn is probably fine in moderation. My uncle is colombian, and makes the best arepas. Fried in lard, of course.

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on May 21, 2012
at 07:11 PM

http://www.againstallgrain.com/2011/05/04/grain-free-tortillas/

i've tried myself and along with rice sheets(which are absolutely divine with some vegetables and homemade pesto) and they pretty good!! :D

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B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

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on May 21, 2012
at 07:07 PM

Depends how much refried beans you put in them. Parp.

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Eabb49dc059e7de35cdc11d1b9aea31f

on May 21, 2012
at 06:00 PM

What about spinach tortillas?

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

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on December 31, 2012
at 12:21 AM

have a recipe?

Eabb49dc059e7de35cdc11d1b9aea31f

(56)

on January 05, 2013
at 11:20 PM

No recipe, but local places around here serve them

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D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

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on May 06, 2012
at 03:19 AM

I think tortillas are probably empty calories and GMO delivery devices. But damn, they can be good, and on the occasion when I hit my local taco truck, I really don't feel all that guilty.

The GMO thing bothers me more than the non-paleo thing. I've got to find organic masa or learn to make my own...

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96adf726df1633d87a03018f1938771a

on May 05, 2012
at 11:14 PM

The corn tortillas I made this evening were made with masa, water, and salt. That's it. No lard, no weird ingredients...just those three. They were fried on an ungreased skillet (which you would want in any case). I've been gluten free for a while and am just starting to research paleo - but wanted to call out that corn tortillas are not necessarily made with lard.

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on May 06, 2012
at 03:16 AM

I think (???) that the point was more that tortillas don't require added fat. I've never made mine with lard or any other fat. It's just water, salt, masa.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78427)

on May 06, 2012
at 12:39 AM

Why is lard(from a pastured pig) any worse than the corn? Neither, knowingly, pass my lips, but I place them at about an equal sub-optimal paleo level.(about a third tier level)

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Eafee106d73d49bdaec8cb3dae41d514

on December 23, 2010
at 02:54 AM

I occasionally will make corn tortillas, but this is getting rarer as I'm starting to lose my taste for them. I wouldn't call it "healthy," but I know what's all in it and so I'm more comfortable with it than buying corn tortillas at the store. Taste better, too.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 23, 2010
at 03:18 AM

My sister makes fabulous homemade corn tortillas! They are a bit too labor intensive for me.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on February 07, 2011
at 07:48 PM

I lost my taste for them too. I used to love corn tortillas.

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on December 22, 2010
at 11:00 PM

Rice flour tortillas are okay by me. I try not to do flour or corn.

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on December 22, 2010
at 09:38 PM

Wheat-Flour tortillas are awful for your health, even worse than bread because typically their oil is horrible. Corn tortilla are not good either but if they are made with a decent oil they may not be that bad, perhaps just a little worse than having white rice.

07c86972a3bea0b0dc17752e9d2f5642

(3162)

on December 23, 2010
at 01:16 AM

True. Real flour tortillas are made with lard (and if I could have gluten again I would cheat like crazy on them, good thing I can't!).

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A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

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on December 22, 2010
at 09:21 PM

They're are the fruits of the devil. (+1 to cynarin)

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