Hey, I'm extremely new to the Paleo world (Started Crossfitting a month and a half ago) and I have a question.
First an introduction - I'm 26 years old, Extremely Obese (almost 380lbs) , but in my luck I'm tall as well (6"2') so the weight doesn't show as much as it would on a shorter person.
Anyways, I've been struggling with weight my entire life - Especially with delicious foods, and I'm trying to make adjustments to my daily eating habits as much as possible.
My main issue is, ever since childhood i don't eat ANY fruits of vegetables. I seriously don't know why, I just find the look and smell of them disgusting. I thought of trying to force myself to try some veggies/fruits but it seems impossible.
So down to the question,
Do you believe it would be somehow possible to go Paleo without any veggies and fruirts? Is there any other kind of nutrition I should be looking at? Adding protein by protein-powder/shakes? I'm extremely new to this entire world (nutrition in general) so I'm sorry if my questions are a bit of "Starter" questions.
Thanks all the way from Israel,
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I don't think fruits and veggies are necessary at all.
I kind of "sprinkle" them on my meats, not more than 1/2 a cup a day. it's usually sauerkraut, avocado, cooked carrots, or bananas. I need as little fiber as possible due to digestive problems.
If you don't enjoy them, don't force yourself to eat them. personally, I LOVE the taste of fruits and veggies and wish I could eat loads of them. just not good for my health.
I do just fine without much fruit or veggies. I've been lacto-Paleo for over 3 years.
Veggies are waaaay overrated in the Paleo world.
Your Vitamin C requirement drops significantly when eating a low carb diet. You should supplement just to be safe.
I eat occasionally have a pickle with my hot dog! I treat fruit and veggies as condiments, really.
The key is to eat organ meats, eggs, and seafood for micronutrients. They are actually more nutrient-dense sources than vegetables.
Dairy is also great if you can tolerate it. Especially hard cheese.
So paté or liverwurst, salmon, free-range eggs, oysters, caviar...
Some articles that may be of interest:
Liver may not supply all your vitamins and minerals, but it's an excellent source of many of them, in moderation. I disguise my ground liver in meatloaf (1/4 lb/pound of ground beef). Throw in 1/3C of ground chia seed/chia flour/pound of ground beefmeatloaf - paleo.pdf, and you have a super food. Recipe attached.
I second what @paleot says...a month into eating this way and I now look forward to broccoli, spinach, salad, asparagus etc whereas before I would go weeks without fruit or veg. Infact the other day I ate a juicy pear that felt like the tastiest thing I'd had in years. Your taste buds do change, give it time. I put butter salt and pepper on the veg and makes it very tasty indeed.
do what i do... get some romaine lettuce, maybe some spinach and just DROWN it in poppyseed dressing and then throw tons of animal protein/fat and fats on top of it and eat it from a giant bowl. or steam everything (still retain most nutrients this way), and stick to the really bland stuff and find which ones you like... especially if you're looking for weight loss, high fat ketogenic diet is gonna be your best friend... try sweet potatoes/yams/squash/white rice post workout if your crosfitting, you'll need to refill glycogen stores
I can relate to not eating much fruit / veg your whole life. When I was a kid I'd put up a fit anytime my parents tried to feed me vegetables (even threw up a few lima beans or carrots once or twice.) I did a near exclusive processed food/corn/soy/wheat/grain-fed meat diet for 20 years or so and maintained a normal / athletic body type. I'm not a fan of sweets, so I didn't really eat much fruit either. I didn't get much sunlight really either.
Eventually it caught up with me and I needed some real nutrients to radically improve my nutrition. I'm now trying to eat vegetables with almost every single meal. It was very difficult at first (nothing tasted good at all.) But, my tastes have completely changed. Once you remove all the comfortable food that tastes good (salty fast food burgers and fries / cheetos-type foods), all the bitter plant stuff starts working for you (after a couple months of eating this way.) It's pretty amazing the difference of how a salad tasted a year ago, and how it tastes today.
These days I can snack on carrots and actually enjoy it. If all else fails and you do go low veg, maybe look into getting a high performance slow juicer and doing that with some meats / starches.
So when you eat a burger... do you put lettuce and a tomato on it?
Do you like Marinara sauce on your pasta (of course we are talking zucchini noodles now, not wheat noodles)
Do you like soup?
Bacon wrapped Asparagus?
There are lots of ways to get hordes of vegetables in even if you don't like them. Purees/ sauces/ soups are great options.
But honestly dude, you're a big boy. put on your big-boy pants and man-up. If you do not have the will power to eat a damn brussels sprout, how are you going to succeed at life? Get over it, eat your veggies, they are good for you. (of course this is assuming you don't have an allergy.)
For short-term weight loss you can do just about anything but to be healthy long-term and keep it off, you need balance.
In all honesty, I don't condone this sort of thing but there are a few people here on PaleoHacks who pull of an almost 100% meat/animal diet and lead healthy lives.
It is my opinion that the only way you can pull this off is to eat pretty much the WHOLE ANIMAL and lots of different species. Think things like spleen, tendon and eye balls... that might help keep things in balance. Hey do you like testicles? You can't live on muscle and liver, at least not in a healthy way. Try to get a little bit of all the offal in your diet and eat plenty of bone broths and stuff.
Going zero carb creates problems for most people though.
Do you like potatos? Especially sweet potatos? Seasonings and spices? Anything with plant matter that you do like should be liberally applied, especially seasonings for trace nutrients IMHO.
What kind of non-grain, non-bean plant matter do you like?
Do you like nuts? Have you ever tried seaweed?
it depends how long you want to last. Stop when you get scurvy. By then you will be depleted of a number of other micronutrients. Nature does not favor picky eaters.
Make some salads, toss in your protein and dress it with balsamic vinegar, lots of dijon mustard and a splash of olive oil. Don't be a wimp, eat it and learn to love it. Due to family revolt, I don't do this all the time, but I could eat a big salad for dinner every night for the rest of my days. The good thing is at 380lbs you can eat a gigantic bowl of it and still drop some pounds. As for fruit, I'd avoid it anyway if you have that much weight to drop.
Yes, you can authentically go Paleo without eating plants.
It is sometimes called winter paleo, or the kind of diet one might eat in the Arctic. The traditional Inuit diet comes to mind.
Research (very) high fat diets. Dr. Peter Attia is doing some great work in this area. Check out his blog.