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Are these too good to be true?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 29, 2012 at 3:38 PM

I follow Perfect Health Diet pretty closely with great results, hence the reason for the carbs.

Anyways, I peel a potato, then cook it whole until its pretty soft in the middle. I then cut the potato into decent size wedges and fry them in butter until the outside is golden brown. It's just like eating extremely great french fries, and I'll have them with like an omelette.

So my question is, are these too good to be true? I just use medium heat but is this too hot for butter? Any downsides to this dish?

4b05d725a8332e8e917a4ca58b6e8a1e

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on February 29, 2012
at 07:34 PM

Wow, thanks for the tip on rosemary. I had no idea. I have a gigantic rosemary bush in my backyard and I'll be sure to use it whenever I fry things.

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on February 29, 2012
at 06:13 PM

Both for sure!!!

52af669cec3e4d2a2b414faea3de2877

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on February 29, 2012
at 06:05 PM

That's great for you, but food reward isn't necessarily about palatability. I understand how variable these things are though, which is why I was vague. If you aren't already familiar: http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/search/label/Food%20reward It's a fascinating series :)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 29, 2012
at 05:17 PM

Noone said instead of butter-use both!

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on February 29, 2012
at 05:13 PM

@Jess, I'm in weight-loss mode and I brown things in butter all the time including potatoes. It's about not over-eating vs. never eating anything tasty.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on February 29, 2012
at 05:12 PM

@air hadoken, it's my fasting day too! Very unfair of Ryan to tempt us, don't you think? @Ryan, on my eating days I use butter to brown various vegetables--I use setting 4 out of 10 on my cooktop and the butter doesn't burn.

5dcffb864193541829e78ff63183c3cd

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on February 29, 2012
at 04:51 PM

This is happening because of the browning, is that what you mean?

52af669cec3e4d2a2b414faea3de2877

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on February 29, 2012
at 04:43 PM

There you go then, gratz ^_^

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on February 29, 2012
at 04:42 PM

Might be creating some carcinogens like acrylamides. Hard to know if that actually matters in the context of an overall healthy diet/lifestyle though.

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on February 29, 2012
at 04:41 PM

This thread is making my mouth water, and I'm on a fasting day >:(

5dcffb864193541829e78ff63183c3cd

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on February 29, 2012
at 04:28 PM

Actually trying to gain some weight, so I guess it's a perfect meal for me to have.

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5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on February 29, 2012
at 04:39 PM

Needs bacon. But then, most things do. :)

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on February 29, 2012
at 05:27 PM

Hey Ryan,

I wouldn't worry too much about it, as long as you aren't getting the bulk of your nutrition from these anyhow, and it seems like you don't.

Butter is quite heat- stable, though the milk solids do tend to burn & brown even during shallow-frying; burning (whether of the butter, or the food itself) can potentially produce free radicals and also harmful chemicals such as acrylamides which have been shown to be carcinogenic. Frying in general is not advised as a primary method of cooking (e.g. Stephan Guynet recommends 'gently cooked foods').

However: these are good recommendations when you're trying to protect most of the population, since if you said 'frying is good', some people would take that to be a license to fry everything they eat. These dangers apply mostly to intense (mainly deep) frying; lightly shallow-frying potato in butter is not the same as deep-frying flour-coated sticks of it in rancid soybean oil. The number of negative compounds you are getting, especially as I'm sure your fried potatoes aren't the bulk of your diet, is close to negligible.

If you are concerned, you could use ghee instead of butter, which has a higher smoke point (smoke point of about 250 celcius, as opposed to butter which is about 140 celcius), and no milk solids. You could also add a herb such as rosemary to the pan, which has been shown to inhibit production of acrylamide in frying meat (so you could do that if you're frying your meat, too, on an aside).

Otherwise, if potatoes fit into your lifestyle, I think you shouldn't worry at all about enjoying this dish.

Lots of love

Milla

P.S. try your fried potatoes with salted herring, parsley & dill! Amazing :-)

4b05d725a8332e8e917a4ca58b6e8a1e

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on February 29, 2012
at 07:34 PM

Wow, thanks for the tip on rosemary. I had no idea. I have a gigantic rosemary bush in my backyard and I'll be sure to use it whenever I fry things.

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52af669cec3e4d2a2b414faea3de2877

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on February 29, 2012
at 04:25 PM

Trying to lose weight? If you are, probably. Starch+fat+salt, not doing you any favours if you subscribe to the food reward spiel at all, and last I heard, Paul Jaminet is all up in Guyenet's business. So, too delicious to be diet food? Yes, probably. Have them occasionally, don't make it an everyday thing, or do, whatever. /shrug Do it for a few weeks, if you aren't doing as well as you think you ought, drop the frequency and see what happens.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on February 29, 2012
at 05:13 PM

@Jess, I'm in weight-loss mode and I brown things in butter all the time including potatoes. It's about not over-eating vs. never eating anything tasty.

52af669cec3e4d2a2b414faea3de2877

(547)

on February 29, 2012
at 04:43 PM

There you go then, gratz ^_^

52af669cec3e4d2a2b414faea3de2877

(547)

on February 29, 2012
at 06:05 PM

That's great for you, but food reward isn't necessarily about palatability. I understand how variable these things are though, which is why I was vague. If you aren't already familiar: http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/search/label/Food%20reward It's a fascinating series :)

5dcffb864193541829e78ff63183c3cd

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on February 29, 2012
at 04:28 PM

Actually trying to gain some weight, so I guess it's a perfect meal for me to have.

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4d6aa1a676240b15dc569ff8ade0500f

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on February 29, 2012
at 04:40 PM

i also do this with the fat that's rendered from making pork belly -- it's like bacon-flavored fries! OMG.

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1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

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on February 29, 2012
at 05:07 PM

I like the idea of using bacon instead of butter. Sounds tasty though...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 29, 2012
at 05:17 PM

Noone said instead of butter-use both!

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

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on February 29, 2012
at 06:13 PM

Both for sure!!!

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on February 29, 2012
at 04:22 PM

Sounds delish! No downsides in my book.

If the butter is browning too much you can use ghee instead.

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