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Drinking less Water on the Paleo Diet?

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Created October 19, 2010 at 10:25 AM

Hi, my partner and I have recently started eating paleo...we are almost up to 3wks!

One thing we have both noticed is that we don't feel the need to drink as much water as we used to. We used to both regularly drink around 2 litres a day.

We have been tossing around possible reasons why...maybe eating more veges with a higher water content? Or, possibly less glucose dumping in urine so more water re-absorption in kidney tubules?

I am curious if anyone else experienced this or has any thoughts on why this might be the case?

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on May 30, 2011
at 04:29 PM

For someone with IBS involving severe constipation, which is common, drinking more water might actually be helpful.

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

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on May 30, 2011
at 04:29 PM

Hi Crystal - my IBS involved lots of gas, extreme bloating, stomach pains, and frequent pooping with loose stool/diarrhea. According to my gastro., sipping water frequently and drinking lots of water with meals (as I did for years) stimulates acid production in your stomach (which I don't need!), can be a major factor in bloat and discomfort for some people, contributes to poor stool formation, and makes your digestive system run even faster, which was personally unhelpful.

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on May 30, 2011
at 07:22 AM

wow! how did sipping water all day worsen your IBS symptoms?

461312f31b933638202e0308ab4011b4

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on January 16, 2011
at 01:27 AM

I drink a fair amount of water, too! c

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on October 21, 2010
at 02:46 AM

I don't know the answer to that Eva - But I always needed to pee first up in the morning (when sick on SAD) I struggled to keep my BLS below 100 when I woke up (Dawn Phenomenon)But slowly getting there,they are mostly 80 now but if I wake and need to pee,they are always over 100(I know insulin is not directly related to Sugar levels but...) I also know that a belly full of water - I need to pee but not sure if its the water or distended belly causing an insulin rise. I just don't know chicken or egg?? I am sure drinking less would have to contribute to the drop in urine surly !

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on October 20, 2010
at 03:50 AM

This is my suspicion, that it has something to do with the starch. Fruit doesn't seem to do it to me. Of course, fruit comes with it's own water as well. Potatoes don't. But even if I drink extra water with the starch, the thirsty effect seems to last a good portion of the day.

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at 03:48 AM

Ooh yeah, good point. I do pee less now too. Less water out would likely mean less water needed in. But then the next question is, what is the cause of the less need to pee? COuld it be the less drinking of water? Which one comes first and what causes that?

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on October 19, 2010
at 05:11 PM

I suspect this is accurate

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at 11:32 AM

I noticed it as well.

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on October 19, 2010
at 01:08 PM

Interesting observation, Crystal. Here are some possible explanations:

1) When you switch from SAD to paleo, your glycogen stores become less "tanked-up." Glycogen storage requires water, so now you need less water than previously.

2) You may have dropped some "cardio" from your workouts. Paleo workouts tend to be shorter and more intense. Shorter workouts means less sweating and lower water requirements.

3) Sometimes when you switch to paleo you don't get enough iodine. This can lower your thyroid function and make you feel colder. When you feel cold, you have peripheral vasoconstriction, which lowers anti-duiretic hormone (ADH) and raises atrial natiuretic peptide (ANP). This lowers your sensation of thirst ( http://www.unh.edu/inquiryjournal/06/articles/dinon.html ). Be sure you're taking enough iodine.

4) Loss of fat stores can also make you feel cooler (see #3 above). If you find yourself getting cold or chilled more easily, try eating a thermogenic food like coconut oil or coconut milk (high in MCTs).

5) I agree with you that eating high water content vegetables can reduce thirst.

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on October 19, 2010
at 05:16 PM

I noticed the same thing since going Paleo. I hardly drink any water at all during the day now, usually just a few sips when I wake up and here and there it seems. Interestingly, ate dinner with some family last week, very non-paleo of course, several wheat products including a little bit of pasta--I was absolutely astonished at how unbelievably thirsty I was for the rest of the day, I was guzzling water like you would not believe, it was horrible.

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on October 19, 2010
at 04:27 PM

I experience the same. My glycogen stores are most likely fine. I still eat fruit. And I have not dropped any cardio because I was never a big fan in the first place. Actually, cardio never made me thirsty because I did it in the air conditioned gym and did not sweat much.

I suspect the issue is at least partly because grains require a lot of water to digest. The body breaks down the starch into its constituent parts via hydrolysis, ie the addition of water to break up the starch molecules. The water molecules are incorporated into the new smaller molecules.

For most of us, I don't think it has anything to do with loss of sugars pulling water out via urination. Healthy people do not have spilling of glucose into urine. If you are not diabetic, this should not be happening. But if you are diabetic, I am sure that would part of it.

HOwever, there are probably other issues that we don't fully understand yet. Water is used in all body functioning. I am not surprised that the body might need more water when dealing with greater strain on the system.

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on October 19, 2010
at 05:11 PM

I suspect this is accurate

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on October 19, 2010
at 11:23 AM

I have experimented with three things and came up with these results:

  • If I lowered my carbs, I will drink and urinate less.
  • If I upped my protein, I will drink and urinate less.
  • If I upped my fructose, I will drink and urinate less.

I think it's due to the blood sugar stabilizing effect of the diet. A lower carb diet stabilizes blood sugar more. So does a higher protein diet.

However, I don't think it's because of the less glucose dumping in urine. I think your diet prevents hypoglycemia, and therefore lessens your secretion of cortisol during hypoglycemia.

As you know, cortisol is a stress hormone which has a diuretic effect. So the more hypoglycemic you are, the more cortisol you will produce to raise your blood sugar.

Additionally, a higher protein diet stabilizes your blood sugar swings because it stimulates the release of a hormone called glucagon when your blood sugar is low. So a higher protein diet will prevent hypoglycemia, therefore decreasing cortisol secretion during hypoglycemia.

Fructose also stabilizes blood sugar by stimulating glucagon when your blood sugar is low, just like protein. (I eat up to 100 grams of fructose per day from sweet potatoes and fruit!)

Cortisol, by itself, is diuretic. So reducing cortisol by controlling your hypoglycemic episodes lessens water loss. In addition, cortisol causes sodium retention and potassium loss within the small intestine. So less cortisol further prevents water loss because it balances your electrolytes.

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Eedf46c82d0356d1d46dda5f9782ef36

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on October 19, 2010
at 12:31 PM

Not me. I love water. I'm convinced my ancestors must have been party aquatic. :)

461312f31b933638202e0308ab4011b4

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on January 16, 2011
at 01:27 AM

I drink a fair amount of water, too! c

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on October 20, 2010
at 03:27 AM

i notice decrease in thirst if cut down starch (including sweet potatoes which are so loved by the rest of paleo community); however, starch works well for occasional (high-)carb re-feeds...

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

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on October 20, 2010
at 03:50 AM

This is my suspicion, that it has something to do with the starch. Fruit doesn't seem to do it to me. Of course, fruit comes with it's own water as well. Potatoes don't. But even if I drink extra water with the starch, the thirsty effect seems to last a good portion of the day.

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286a4ff7c362241c5c4b020df4972212

on October 20, 2010
at 02:01 AM

For me I have noticed that I go to the toilet less now that my insulin levels are lower. When I have food that trigger an insulin response ( Like cream ) I need to urinate almost straight away. So I wonder if we are not triggering insulin - we are weeing less and therefore needing less water to drink???

I don't have any data to support this theory but I do have to wonder - I definitely only urinate or defecate after an insulin response ( most people do - think about it next time you go to the toilet - what did you do or eat before hand ? Exercise and nervousness both trigger it also as they evoke insulin response)

Food ( low carb no less ) for thought!

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

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on October 20, 2010
at 03:48 AM

Ooh yeah, good point. I do pee less now too. Less water out would likely mean less water needed in. But then the next question is, what is the cause of the less need to pee? COuld it be the less drinking of water? Which one comes first and what causes that?

286a4ff7c362241c5c4b020df4972212

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on October 21, 2010
at 02:46 AM

I don't know the answer to that Eva - But I always needed to pee first up in the morning (when sick on SAD) I struggled to keep my BLS below 100 when I woke up (Dawn Phenomenon)But slowly getting there,they are mostly 80 now but if I wake and need to pee,they are always over 100(I know insulin is not directly related to Sugar levels but...) I also know that a belly full of water - I need to pee but not sure if its the water or distended belly causing an insulin rise. I just don't know chicken or egg?? I am sure drinking less would have to contribute to the drop in urine surly !

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on October 19, 2010
at 04:55 PM

Just throwing another thought out there: I've noticed that on paleo I drink less in between meals, but still have a lot of water with meals. (I'm just obeying my thirst, and that's what it tells me to do.) So maybe it seems like you're drinking less overall just because you're not drinking as frequently.

Not doubting your own account of your water consumption, of course. It could be a mixture of what I'm suggesting plus one or several of the things from what everyone else has suggested in their answers. Such that there might be an overall decrease in water intake, plus a decrease in frequency of intake, which then makes the overall intake seem like less, "phenomenologically."

Anyhow this happened to me I'm pretty sure.

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26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

on May 06, 2011
at 04:22 AM

Yep, I've noticed the same. I am less thirsty and pee less. Partially I think it's that most food I eat has plenty of liquid in it.

I also intentionally reduced my intake around the same time I change my diet, sbecause I used to sip water all day long and it contributed to my IBS (didn't believe my gastroenterologist when she told me, but she was right). But now that I only drink when I'm thirsty, I don't feel thirsty that often, but my pee is still a nice medium-yellow.

I also drink down 8 oz or so within a minute when I do feel thirsty, and never sip all day or drink much with meals - that really reduced bloating and gas. I used to be hugely bloated almost 24/7 due to grain intake, very high water intake, and IBS.

1bbf5b9ed5202debe9a4c5b9f65e233b

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on May 30, 2011
at 07:22 AM

wow! how did sipping water all day worsen your IBS symptoms?

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

(7967)

on May 30, 2011
at 04:29 PM

For someone with IBS involving severe constipation, which is common, drinking more water might actually be helpful.

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

(7967)

on May 30, 2011
at 04:29 PM

Hi Crystal - my IBS involved lots of gas, extreme bloating, stomach pains, and frequent pooping with loose stool/diarrhea. According to my gastro., sipping water frequently and drinking lots of water with meals (as I did for years) stimulates acid production in your stomach (which I don't need!), can be a major factor in bloat and discomfort for some people, contributes to poor stool formation, and makes your digestive system run even faster, which was personally unhelpful.

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on May 06, 2011
at 02:56 AM

im reading in "The Paleo Solution" that frequent urination is one of the things that the paleo lifestyle tends to help improve. not exactly about thirst and water intake, but thought i'd add that

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on October 19, 2010
at 11:16 AM

I noticed it too.

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on October 19, 2010
at 11:32 AM

I noticed it as well.

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