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How much heavy cream is too much?

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Created May 25, 2011 at 2:25 PM

Lately, I've been drinking a latte made with grass-fed heavy cream, espresso, and cinnamon, on an almost daily basis (about a large cups worth). Tastes good, and keeps morning hunger pangs away until I'm settled in at work. Any reason I should cut back on my heavy cream intake?

Do most of you use heavy cream just as a flavor enhancer, or do you drink the stuff outright?

15480ad0efe9168bc518967b9a2e240d

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on March 13, 2012
at 10:20 PM

How do you get WholeFoods to carry the brand, do you send them an email? I drink about a pint a week, I don't know if it has helped me lose weight since the numbers are same regardless. I am lifting weights (not crossfit), and I have noticed a gradual increase in muscle mass. I tried going without it, and found myself hungrier, maybe the fat content is satiating.

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on March 13, 2012
at 06:40 PM

It has no affect on my weight. If I go a week or two without one or have it everyday for a week, my weight is constant. 182 before bed, 178 when I wake up. It's been that way every day for 2 years. The only difference is when I carb load for a glycolitic demanding weekend, then I can gain 5-10 pounds in a week just by upping my carbs - and it comes off as quickly when I'm done.

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on March 13, 2012
at 05:11 PM

I suspect that hypo-, iso- or hyper- caloric state makes a difference here.

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on March 13, 2012
at 05:09 PM

Let me guess....you aren't trying to lose weight! LOL That's circa 1000kcal.

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on March 13, 2012
at 04:18 PM

We live and learn.

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on March 13, 2012
at 04:11 PM

Well, it varies just like everything else. My cholesterol is 178 and I eat butter, have 6-8 tbsp of heavy cream per day and 2/3 cup extra-fat yogurt every other day (or more.)

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on March 13, 2012
at 03:53 PM

Good job Kronky! I also changed my heavy cream habits. Now, I don't use it to add to stuff unless it is an integral part of a recipe. So berries and cream has turned into just berries.

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on March 13, 2012
at 02:50 AM

or one could make a cheesecake, without adding any sugar

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on March 13, 2012
at 12:55 AM

I would think that if you can only buy high-quality cream in a 1L size but can't use it all up before it spoils, that you should be able to pour the surplus cream into an ice cube tray, freeze, then pop out the cubes to store in a freezer Ziploc bag for easily manageable serving sizes. Or does cream get icky-weird after freezing?

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on May 31, 2011
at 01:42 PM

I should be getting my VAP results this week to determine if my LDL is Pattern A or Pattern B. I also eat a lot of butter since going paleo, so that would explain the cholesterol levels.

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on May 26, 2011
at 11:48 PM

...and there is good and bad LDL

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on May 26, 2011
at 07:27 PM

I have the same experience - a hard time losing weight with much dairy. I'm not sure if it's the dairy per se or my lack of self-control if I eat it! If I try to drink heavy cream straight-up, it's a half-pint at a time! I can't eat an ounce of cheese; it has to be a half-pound! The only self-control I have with dairy is at the point of purchase.

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on May 26, 2011
at 04:11 PM

I got a heavy cream cappuccino today, wow it holds foam well and has great texture. I have a new favorite.

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on May 26, 2011
at 02:52 PM

well... I pay $3.39 per pint for Clover Organic Farms at Whole Foods, which works out to $6.78 per 32 oz.

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on May 26, 2011
at 02:37 PM

ok so how much is everyone paying for 1 liter of true cream? I cant seem to find it in N.Florida yet. But I am headed to Salt Lake city and Yellowstone so I am hoping to find it out that way.

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on May 26, 2011
at 02:01 PM

Heavy Cream is not 'dairy' in the sense of the word you are referring to. There are no carbs and therefore no lactose in heavy cream. It is literally liquid cow fat and more in line with eating a steak, minus the protein than eating 'dairy - milk/cheese/etc'. Much love!

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on May 26, 2011
at 01:34 PM

My habit is to ask for a long black and a small jug of heavy cream on the side. If they don't have cream I keep walking..

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on May 26, 2011
at 01:02 AM

They gave me one without a struggle, but I must remember to get a small!

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on May 25, 2011
at 11:04 PM

I guess they're not around but this dairy is and will be selling heavy cream at the market: greencitymarket.org/farmers/farmer.asp?id=69 and from Jersey cows too! They carry it in half gallons... only thing is people buy out the heavy cream *very* quickly at green city, so you gotta go early.

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on May 25, 2011
at 11:01 PM

I guess they're not around but this dairy is and will be selling heavy cream at the market: http://www.greencitymarket.org/farmers/farmer.asp?id=69

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on May 25, 2011
at 10:58 PM

Kent, I don't know if they're still around (they may or may not have gotten permanently shut down for "under pasturizing" their milk, but at the Green City Market in Lincoln Park, there used to be a dairy called Blue Marble Dairy that sold heavy cream by the 1/2 gallon jar. It was the best cream I've ever had in my life. If I were still inChicago I'd go see if they're still at the market, or maybe another dairy has stepped in to fill their void.

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on May 25, 2011
at 10:08 PM

My experience has been that you have to be excruciatingly clear with them what you want or you will end up with whipped cream or half and half.

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on May 25, 2011
at 06:57 PM

yep steph. i get clover. in fact, i just purchased 3 more about an hour ago. and some pastured eggs! i wish there was another fully grass fed in socal option other than the raw cream from organic pastures (too expensive).

03f5a69fde4012b827ebdb6d93b71e7a

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on May 25, 2011
at 05:35 PM

Yep most places will do heavy cream, they tend to have it on-hand.

03f5a69fde4012b827ebdb6d93b71e7a

(2007)

on May 25, 2011
at 05:34 PM

Haha I'm with you Kent, 1Ls would be awesome. I had Kalona in WI and it was fantastic. Not in Cali though. We have Clover here which is organic, partially grass fed, and extra high butterfat :D

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on May 25, 2011
at 03:53 PM

I had no idea you could get a heavy cream latte at Starbucks, I shall have to try that and ditch the Breve Latte I usually get there.

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on May 25, 2011
at 03:52 PM

1L? I'd give a lot of money for a 1L bottle of good cream. I'd go through many pints a week (when I'm not fasting through breakfast, anyhow). And with Kalona Super Natural, I *will* be giving a lot of money for it ;-) (Yeah, it tends to be pricey, but I'm OK with spending a little more on good quality food)

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on May 25, 2011
at 03:39 PM

dang my whole foods doesn't have that brand. then again, i'm in socal. but yah that sounds like a winner. i wish i had a 1 liter option.

510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

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on May 25, 2011
at 03:20 PM

Kent, I just got the Kalona this week, my Whole Foods started carrying it. Best. Cream. Evar. Trouble is that it only comes in 1L bottles, so I need to find a way to use it up before it goes bad.

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

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on May 25, 2011
at 03:17 PM

Forgot to mention the reason: milk from grass fed cows, NOT homogenized, and pasteurized at the lowest temperature permissible.

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on May 25, 2011
at 03:16 PM

I'm waiting for my local Whole Foods to start carrying Kalona Super Natural cream - they have the rest of their products, just not the cream (yet). So far I've been very pleased with the rest of their dairy offerings.

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Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on May 25, 2011
at 03:03 PM

I pour about 4 tablespoons into my coffee daily. Also, I'll dump a half cup onto a fruit bowl (like a sliced banana or some blueberries or both). Also, sometimes I'll chase a little snack with a couple spoonfuls of cream just because I like to end on that. We go through about 3-4 pints per week. Just stay away from the heavy cream with additives in it. Get the ones with only one single ingredient, cream. If you are getting it from an establishment, be CERTAIN to ask them to see the ingredients, especially since you are drinking that much of it daily. And as Richard noted, don't get ultra pasteurized.

If you tolerate it well, cream is good, and very satiating.

Update: Wow. Ya know... it's really cool to see archived answers pop up on the grid. LadyAdmin just commented on this below so I took a look at this again. Look at how much cream I used to consume. 3-4 pints per week. That's 2 gallons per month!! Yes cream is good, and very satiating. That is still a true statement, but I have come to learn that just because a food is free of additives doesn't mean swallowing gallons of it every month is a healthy thing to do. That's too much sat fat from palmitic acid. I haven't bought heavy cream for several months, and now I probably have about 1 pint of Trader Joes organic half and half per month on average. What a difference.

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(2007)

on May 25, 2011
at 05:34 PM

Haha I'm with you Kent, 1Ls would be awesome. I had Kalona in WI and it was fantastic. Not in Cali though. We have Clover here which is organic, partially grass fed, and extra high butterfat :D

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

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on May 25, 2011
at 03:52 PM

1L? I'd give a lot of money for a 1L bottle of good cream. I'd go through many pints a week (when I'm not fasting through breakfast, anyhow). And with Kalona Super Natural, I *will* be giving a lot of money for it ;-) (Yeah, it tends to be pricey, but I'm OK with spending a little more on good quality food)

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

(7970)

on May 25, 2011
at 03:17 PM

Forgot to mention the reason: milk from grass fed cows, NOT homogenized, and pasteurized at the lowest temperature permissible.

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

(7970)

on May 25, 2011
at 03:16 PM

I'm waiting for my local Whole Foods to start carrying Kalona Super Natural cream - they have the rest of their products, just not the cream (yet). So far I've been very pleased with the rest of their dairy offerings.

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

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on May 26, 2011
at 02:37 PM

ok so how much is everyone paying for 1 liter of true cream? I cant seem to find it in N.Florida yet. But I am headed to Salt Lake city and Yellowstone so I am hoping to find it out that way.

Medium avatar

(5136)

on May 25, 2011
at 10:58 PM

Kent, I don't know if they're still around (they may or may not have gotten permanently shut down for "under pasturizing" their milk, but at the Green City Market in Lincoln Park, there used to be a dairy called Blue Marble Dairy that sold heavy cream by the 1/2 gallon jar. It was the best cream I've ever had in my life. If I were still inChicago I'd go see if they're still at the market, or maybe another dairy has stepped in to fill their void.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18452)

on May 25, 2011
at 03:39 PM

dang my whole foods doesn't have that brand. then again, i'm in socal. but yah that sounds like a winner. i wish i had a 1 liter option.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18452)

on May 25, 2011
at 06:57 PM

yep steph. i get clover. in fact, i just purchased 3 more about an hour ago. and some pastured eggs! i wish there was another fully grass fed in socal option other than the raw cream from organic pastures (too expensive).

Medium avatar

(5136)

on May 25, 2011
at 11:01 PM

I guess they're not around but this dairy is and will be selling heavy cream at the market: http://www.greencitymarket.org/farmers/farmer.asp?id=69

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18452)

on May 26, 2011
at 02:52 PM

well... I pay $3.39 per pint for Clover Organic Farms at Whole Foods, which works out to $6.78 per 32 oz.

510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

(20898)

on May 25, 2011
at 03:20 PM

Kent, I just got the Kalona this week, my Whole Foods started carrying it. Best. Cream. Evar. Trouble is that it only comes in 1L bottles, so I need to find a way to use it up before it goes bad.

Medium avatar

(5136)

on May 25, 2011
at 11:04 PM

I guess they're not around but this dairy is and will be selling heavy cream at the market: greencitymarket.org/farmers/farmer.asp?id=69 and from Jersey cows too! They carry it in half gallons... only thing is people buy out the heavy cream *very* quickly at green city, so you gotta go early.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19230)

on March 13, 2012
at 04:18 PM

We live and learn.

2f361c2cec9ddf7409bf0094977aac1e

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on March 13, 2012
at 12:55 AM

I would think that if you can only buy high-quality cream in a 1L size but can't use it all up before it spoils, that you should be able to pour the surplus cream into an ice cube tray, freeze, then pop out the cubes to store in a freezer Ziploc bag for easily manageable serving sizes. Or does cream get icky-weird after freezing?

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 13, 2012
at 03:53 PM

Good job Kronky! I also changed my heavy cream habits. Now, I don't use it to add to stuff unless it is an integral part of a recipe. So berries and cream has turned into just berries.

15480ad0efe9168bc518967b9a2e240d

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on March 13, 2012
at 10:20 PM

How do you get WholeFoods to carry the brand, do you send them an email? I drink about a pint a week, I don't know if it has helped me lose weight since the numbers are same regardless. I am lifting weights (not crossfit), and I have noticed a gradual increase in muscle mass. I tried going without it, and found myself hungrier, maybe the fat content is satiating.

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on May 26, 2011
at 04:56 PM

I use a lot of heavy cream, and I think it has contributed to my weight LOSS.

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on May 26, 2011
at 05:40 PM

You recently posted a thread where you stated that your cholesterol was 320. Dairy fat is likely the reason why it was that high. I got mine to 391 with tons of butter. Whether this is significant in terms of health/longevity is anyone's guess, but there is a strong relationship between myristic/palmitic acid intake and LDL cholesterol.

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on May 26, 2011
at 11:48 PM

...and there is good and bad LDL

Da8e709acde269e8b8bfbc09d1737841

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on May 31, 2011
at 01:42 PM

I should be getting my VAP results this week to determine if my LDL is Pattern A or Pattern B. I also eat a lot of butter since going paleo, so that would explain the cholesterol levels.

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on March 13, 2012
at 04:11 PM

Well, it varies just like everything else. My cholesterol is 178 and I eat butter, have 6-8 tbsp of heavy cream per day and 2/3 cup extra-fat yogurt every other day (or more.)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 13, 2012
at 05:11 PM

I suspect that hypo-, iso- or hyper- caloric state makes a difference here.

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on May 25, 2011
at 10:46 PM

No limit for me. I love the stuff and I need to gain weight anyway. I typically go through 4-6 pints per week.

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510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

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on May 25, 2011
at 03:23 PM

I get a Tall HC Latte about 3 times a week from Starbucks. I've been doing that for years. I see no problem with it. You can't go wrong with 50 cals/tablespoon of saturated fat. I'm very lactose intolerant, milk will send me to the bathroom very quickly. But I can drink cream all day long. That tells me that there's nothing bad there :) I also have cream in my morning coffee at home and make unsweetened whip cream for dessert sometimes.

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on May 25, 2011
at 03:53 PM

I had no idea you could get a heavy cream latte at Starbucks, I shall have to try that and ditch the Breve Latte I usually get there.

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on May 25, 2011
at 05:35 PM

Yep most places will do heavy cream, they tend to have it on-hand.

Fff58a1fd1e29d93fd6a25d3fdebbade

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on May 25, 2011
at 10:08 PM

My experience has been that you have to be excruciatingly clear with them what you want or you will end up with whipped cream or half and half.

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

(1781)

on May 26, 2011
at 01:34 PM

My habit is to ask for a long black and a small jug of heavy cream on the side. If they don't have cream I keep walking..

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on May 26, 2011
at 01:02 AM

They gave me one without a struggle, but I must remember to get a small!

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

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on May 26, 2011
at 04:11 PM

I got a heavy cream cappuccino today, wow it holds foam well and has great texture. I have a new favorite.

510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

(20898)

on March 13, 2012
at 06:40 PM

It has no affect on my weight. If I go a week or two without one or have it everyday for a week, my weight is constant. 182 before bed, 178 when I wake up. It's been that way every day for 2 years. The only difference is when I carb load for a glycolitic demanding weekend, then I can gain 5-10 pounds in a week just by upping my carbs - and it comes off as quickly when I'm done.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 13, 2012
at 05:09 PM

Let me guess....you aren't trying to lose weight! LOL That's circa 1000kcal.

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on May 25, 2011
at 02:55 PM

I have been drinking it for years, probably around 1.5 to 2 quarts a week. The raw cream is too expensive to consume all the time for me so I usually get the pasteurized (not ultra) organic. I'm assuming it has all or most of the same health promoting properties that butter has...all the fat soluble vitamins, CLA, arachidonic acid, cholesterol. It's also good to have with fruit in that the fat in cream will slow down the absorption of the sugar in the fruit.

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on March 13, 2012
at 12:29 AM

3/4 cup of heavy whipping cream + 1/2 cup of cottage cheese + 1 scoop casein protein powder

Blend. (Hand immersion blender or the Magic Bullet are stunning for this.)

It's cheesecake - without the carbs.

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on March 13, 2012
at 02:50 AM

or one could make a cheesecake, without adding any sugar

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5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

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on May 26, 2011
at 01:43 PM

To answer your question, I go through at least 1.5 litres a week and if I want a big calorie hit I have been known to go through that much in a day. Occasionally I like to really smash the calories through the roof, 4000-5000 calories every so often just to stir things up and cream is a handy easy way to get the extra calories. So if you handle it, go for it..

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on May 25, 2011
at 02:59 PM

It is hard for me to lose weight with a lot of dairy, but that is a personal quirk and if it is for good or bad depends on your goals.

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on May 26, 2011
at 02:01 PM

Heavy Cream is not 'dairy' in the sense of the word you are referring to. There are no carbs and therefore no lactose in heavy cream. It is literally liquid cow fat and more in line with eating a steak, minus the protein than eating 'dairy - milk/cheese/etc'. Much love!

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on May 26, 2011
at 07:27 PM

I have the same experience - a hard time losing weight with much dairy. I'm not sure if it's the dairy per se or my lack of self-control if I eat it! If I try to drink heavy cream straight-up, it's a half-pint at a time! I can't eat an ounce of cheese; it has to be a half-pound! The only self-control I have with dairy is at the point of purchase.

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on April 15, 2013
at 07:11 PM

Just whipped up 300ml with some honey, brazil nuts, cashews and raisins.

safe to say i feel full now :)

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on February 11, 2013
at 08:44 PM

Not to be a contrarian, and a very late add to this discussion, but I'd argue that any cream, any dairy really, is too much except for the most special of occasions. Grassfed or no, pasteurized or no, high fat, low fat, doesn't matter when it comes to the fact that milk from ruminants would have been rarely if ever consumed by our paleolithic forebears. And really the same goes for coffee. Neither are even remotely part of the same types or classes of foods our ancestors would have had access to. Have your coffee and cream if you want -- and pay whatever costs -- but please don't pretend it's paleo.

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on May 26, 2011
at 06:04 PM

I went very ketotic ala Archevore/PaNu, drinking lots of heavy cream and went from a size 35 to a 30 waist. I lost weight, eating high fat, which included heavy cream. The amounts per day varied depending on hunger and schedule. I probably went thru about 8oz per day. I transitioned, once lean, to higher protein.

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