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Anyone feel hungover without drinking?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created November 03, 2011 at 3:56 PM

Hello Paleohacks community! I'm new here, but have been having feeling terrible in the mornings, like I'm hungover! Sometimes throughout the entire day I feel like I'm on drugs, though I'm not! I follow the Paleo diet faithfully, but can't seem feel 100%. I'm not looking for answers, but rather other people who have the same problem and see what they're doing about it. :)

33266cca338ab54cee9a2aa160f5bdb6

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on March 11, 2013
at 10:29 PM

This happened to me as well while in ketosis. And potatoes are paleo by the way.

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

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on December 13, 2011
at 06:17 AM

Jetlag does that to me, and +1 for sugar hangover!

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

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on December 13, 2011
at 06:17 AM

Migraines are such a joy, aren't they?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 13, 2011
at 05:07 AM

I'm sure I still have lot's of toxicity. Mercury takes years to chelate out of the brain.

D45e43b08cd99a04f5d4294a871e1078

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on December 12, 2011
at 11:57 PM

how do you know you don't have any heavy metal toxicity anymore?

D45e43b08cd99a04f5d4294a871e1078

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on December 12, 2011
at 09:01 PM

Thanks Ali. I experience all the same things as you, even though it's like we're the only ones. I've been trying Paleo and everything about it for a long time, and I only find out that there is no answer. However, I was feeling hungover before I went Paleo, and I can say that life is better on Paleo, but not much better.

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on December 12, 2011
at 04:41 PM

possibly allergies.

61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

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on December 12, 2011
at 01:40 PM

Wow, the headache sounds miserable. 8(

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

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on November 03, 2011
at 09:10 PM

Yes, electrolyte imbalance is totally possible on Paleo. We always hear that we should eat less salt, but that's taking people on SAD into account, not people who don't eat processed and sodium-laden foods. Even some Paleo people say we shouldn't add salt to anything, and I think that's not only bullshit, but dangerous advice to give.

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on November 03, 2011
at 07:17 PM

2nd That. Drink lots of water. I also heard somewhere that we actually need more salt on low carb/paleo...I'll have to find that again

D45e43b08cd99a04f5d4294a871e1078

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on November 03, 2011
at 04:53 PM

interesting. I was crutched on coffee needing it to just feel normal. I've been off coffee for three months and it's a huge difference.

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on November 03, 2011
at 04:33 PM

Very witty! I'd probably go back to bed.

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on November 03, 2011
at 04:09 PM

just to see if we could pinpoint anything, it'd be nice to have a typical day's food journal

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1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

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on November 03, 2011
at 04:37 PM

How much water are you drinking each day? Hangovers are mainly due to dehydration via the diruetic effect of alcohol. I've found that as long as I alternate one glass of water for every alcoholic drink I have (which isn't many) I have zero hangover the next day.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

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on November 03, 2011
at 09:10 PM

Yes, electrolyte imbalance is totally possible on Paleo. We always hear that we should eat less salt, but that's taking people on SAD into account, not people who don't eat processed and sodium-laden foods. Even some Paleo people say we shouldn't add salt to anything, and I think that's not only bullshit, but dangerous advice to give.

Ba5b05f5c84750734b218e9f482103dc

(138)

on November 03, 2011
at 07:17 PM

2nd That. Drink lots of water. I also heard somewhere that we actually need more salt on low carb/paleo...I'll have to find that again

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on November 03, 2011
at 04:22 PM

If I felt hung over without drinking, I would (say it with me) spend more time drinking. Paying the costs, why not reap the benefits?

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 03, 2011
at 04:33 PM

Very witty! I'd probably go back to bed.

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on November 03, 2011
at 04:21 PM

things that make me feel like that:

  • going cold turkey when I'm addicted to caffeine
  • sugar binge and subsequent crash
  • first few days on very low carb = carb flu
  • not enough sleep or not enough restful sleep
  • migraines actually feel a LOT like a hangover to me. I have a tremendous headache (obviously) and throw up every 10 minutes or so for 5-6 hours.

  • 61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

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    on December 12, 2011
    at 01:40 PM

    Wow, the headache sounds miserable. 8(

    Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

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    on December 13, 2011
    at 06:17 AM

    Migraines are such a joy, aren't they?

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    96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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    on November 03, 2011
    at 04:19 PM

    What is the typical timing/content of your meals? Both can make quite a difference. Also, how long is it since you started your lifestyle changes? Most people have a "low carb" flu at times during the early weeks while the gut flora and hormones, enzymes, etc., adjust to radical changes in food content.

    If you were using a lot of caffeine and stopped, that would take a while to stop affecting how you feel.

    I'm assuming you made a lot of changes in what you're eating, and it's possible you accidentally started eating something that doesn't agree with you. Try eating a small number of trusted foods for a few days and see if you feel better, then add a food every few days to find the culprit.

    D45e43b08cd99a04f5d4294a871e1078

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    on November 03, 2011
    at 04:53 PM

    interesting. I was crutched on coffee needing it to just feel normal. I've been off coffee for three months and it's a huge difference.

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    A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

    on December 13, 2011
    at 03:40 PM

    Do you feel better after you leave your house, and worse after spending a lot of time there? Did it worsen after the cold weather started (if you have cold weather)? Have you ruled out a natural gas leak or carbon monoxide from an improperly functioning furnace, water heater, etc.? A low level of chronic exposure could feel something like a hangover and might naturally feel worse in the morning after many hours of constant exposure. There may be other environmental factors. It might be worth at least making sure. I was having a similar problem and traced it to exposure to a theatrical hazer to which I was exposed 4 nights a week in a production in which I was playing.

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    5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

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    on November 03, 2011
    at 04:20 PM

    Any large dietary change will cause disruptions in your gut flora balance. Give your body a few weeks to adapt.

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    B58511bcd1ecc0dd4ad8130859513c81

    on November 03, 2011
    at 04:17 PM

    Only happens to me when I have a sugar hangover, or if I'm traveling for some reason..

    Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

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    on December 13, 2011
    at 06:17 AM

    Jetlag does that to me, and +1 for sugar hangover!

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    33266cca338ab54cee9a2aa160f5bdb6

    on March 11, 2013
    at 10:29 PM

    Once, while in ketosis, I ate a vine of grapes over the course of 2 days. I felt full on hungover and with impaired motor skills but without any feel good drunkenness for 36-48 hours afterwards. Knowing I had/have yeast overgrowth I attribute it to fermentation and subsequent methanol/acetaldehyde intoxication. Perhaps being in ketosis inhibited my sugar digestion? I was eating them throughout the day in small amounts, all day. I don't really know, just guessing. Other times I ate a high sugar treat without any effects like this, just a glucose spike and drop.

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    4f43a7b0784f5fe4725448457e25526c

    on March 11, 2013
    at 08:54 PM

    How do you get rid of toxicity? My dr recommended the Paleo and I would say I am 80/20. I am still trying to wean out potatoes and such - but having a hell of a time! Lately, if I do drink - even a small amount- and even if I am not drunk, the next day I am VERY hung over. And if I don't drink, I sometimes feel hung over. My dr said its not normal but he has no idea why I'd be feeling like this (naturopath).

    33266cca338ab54cee9a2aa160f5bdb6

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    on March 11, 2013
    at 10:29 PM

    This happened to me as well while in ketosis. And potatoes are paleo by the way.

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    77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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    on December 12, 2011
    at 10:35 PM

    Heavy metal toxicity made me feel "hungover" for years(maybe even decades). Now that I'm finally on a consistant chelation program, the "fog/queeziness/dizziness/fatigue"" has lifted. It is quite remarkable.

    D45e43b08cd99a04f5d4294a871e1078

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    on December 12, 2011
    at 11:57 PM

    how do you know you don't have any heavy metal toxicity anymore?

    77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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    on December 13, 2011
    at 05:07 AM

    I'm sure I still have lot's of toxicity. Mercury takes years to chelate out of the brain.

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    61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

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    on December 12, 2011
    at 01:44 PM

    Henry, have you figured out a reason for this? I get the same thing and I can't find a dietary correlation. I'd actually say mine is worse than a "real" hangover, so if I've been drinking I feel better a couple hours after waking up. This phenomenon seems to knock me over for an entire day or longer.

    Sometimes it happens after I don't get a lot of sleep, but other times it seems more out of the blue so I don't feel like I can blame it on a lack of sleep (at least not completely).

    Did you change anything and notice any improvements? I'd love to hear a follow up! 8)

    559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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    on December 12, 2011
    at 04:41 PM

    possibly allergies.

    D45e43b08cd99a04f5d4294a871e1078

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    on December 12, 2011
    at 09:01 PM

    Thanks Ali. I experience all the same things as you, even though it's like we're the only ones. I've been trying Paleo and everything about it for a long time, and I only find out that there is no answer. However, I was feeling hungover before I went Paleo, and I can say that life is better on Paleo, but not much better.

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    on November 03, 2011
    at 05:52 PM

    I felt the same way in the first few weeks of eating Paleo. It's most likely your body switching to a ketogenic metabolic state. I felt very foggy and bleary upon waking, and was very worried that it would persist. It did not.

    The main things, as others have mentioned are meal timing, and water intake. I found that drinking more water during my VLC/ZC phase helped ease the transition, and skipping breakfast made all the difference in the world.

    I also still sometimes feel this way if I eat too much sugar the night before, or if I've been lackadaisical on my Mg supplementation. Re-implementing it makes me groggy for some reason.

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