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Why isn't everyone defficient in Vitamin A if beta carotene doesn't abosrb well?

Commented on April 10, 2014
Created April 10, 2014 at 8:38 PM

http://healthybabycode.com/why-you-cant-get-vitamin-a-from-eating-vegetables

I don't quite understand how come? I'm sure not everyone is eating liver?

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on April 10, 2014
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I eat upwards of 4tbs some days. I'm seeing 700-900IU as a nutritional goal, with 300+IU per tbs.

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on April 10, 2014
at 09:48 PM

Butter contains beta carotene, and some retinol.

Cf08ad26759fdd206a2c9f9385080a57

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on April 10, 2014
at 09:38 PM

Hella. I took accutane and the stuff messed me up good.

For a minute, it seemed like I had some difficulty digesting dairy, but lots of lactic acid bacteria and possibly less fructose seemed to clear that up.

It looks like cream of wheat is a good supply of retinol. I think that would cause more acne than some kerrygold.

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on April 10, 2014
at 09:33 PM

Lucky!!! Have you ever had skin problems?

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on April 10, 2014
at 09:32 PM

I don't have a single pimple / acne on my face, but, perhaps I'm not so sensitive to it. I throw down tablespoons like it's clean burning rocket fuel.

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on April 10, 2014
at 09:30 PM

I wish butter didnt have hormones to cause acne

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on April 10, 2014
at 09:22 PM

What do you mean if I get a lot of Vitamin D? If I get a lot of D then does my body need more A?

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Cf08ad26759fdd206a2c9f9385080a57

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on April 10, 2014
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"Everyone" is a pretty broad group to be clinically "deficient". From the looks of it, a good amount of the SAD foods are fortified with it, and the grassfed eggs/dairy/meats easily provide a day's supply. So, unless you're avoiding organs / seafood / meat / dairy / SAD foods or fruits / vegetables / starches / herbs and unable to convert enough carotenoids over, you should be able to scoot by. Your average breakfast cereal has a ton of retinol, and I can hit 100% just in butter before I eat any food.

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on April 10, 2014
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I wish butter didnt have hormones to cause acne

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on April 10, 2014
at 09:48 PM

Butter contains beta carotene, and some retinol.

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on April 10, 2014
at 09:19 PM

From what little I understand, vitamin A (in the form of retinal) is one of those things your body likes to have too much of IF you have plenty of the other stuff (vitamin D, for one). If you get it all from plant sources your body will hedge its bets (for fear of inadequate vitamin D etc...) and only convert enough beta carotene to retinal to stave off deficiency. If you get a lot of vitamin D (combine sun, food, and possible supplementation) then the more vitamin A the merrier (within reason) and, so, eat your liver and onions kids!

TLDR: I don't think you'll have a deficiency if you eat plenty of beta carotene but you won't reap the benefits of an excess either.

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on April 10, 2014
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What do you mean if I get a lot of Vitamin D? If I get a lot of D then does my body need more A?

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on April 10, 2014
at 09:05 PM

Not a scientist, no clue.

The paleo answer might be:

You're body only needs a small amount to stave off deficiency, but ideal intake and not being deficient are two different things. I may be making this up, but I think i've seen you only need 600iu of A per day...again probably made that up. Beta carotene I believe is converted at a 5-1 to 15-1 rate.

Again...no clue what I'm talking about.

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on April 10, 2014
at 09:04 PM

Inefficient absorption doesn't mean you're vitamin A deficient. Inefficient conversion of beta carotene to vitamin A doesn't mean you're vitamin A deficient.

His 3% figure in human adults is an in vitro study, a test tube experiment, not a study in, you know, actual humans.

45% of humans don't convert beta carotene to vitamin A, he says. The study he's linked as been talked about before. They study just 11 men, hardly a number capable of estimating the general population! If you couple this would the equally small study in done with women before this… the numbers show that adequate vitamin A consumption inhibits beta carotene conversion, while low vitamin A consumption ramps up the conversion.

Downvote for Kresser. :(

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