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Oh no! Paleo has ruined my singing voice?!

Commented on January 10, 2017
Created April 02, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Perhaps I'm being melodramatic, but it has seriously impacted my vocal performance.

A little preface: I am a singer and songwriter. I have been singing basically since I was born. My mom was a hippie and played guitar and autoharp, and taught my sister and I to sing. She was also the music teacher at my Montesorri school. I have always been in choir, and was in the top touring choir of the Indianapolis Children's Choir. I was a bartender at Planet Rose, a karaoke bar in NYC for three years. I never had to warm up, sing scales, etc. It was effortless. I could sing an Otis Redding song like Try a Little Tenderness and then switch gears and sing some Boston or Johnny Cash. I have a great 3 octave range, and I'm very good at it. I'm not shy about saying so, or proving it.

BUT, since I've gone Paleo I have noticed that my throat gets very dry. So I drink lots of water. Everyday it seems like I was up with my tongue plastered to the roof of my mouth though. No amount of water seems to keep me hydrated.

Last night I was in my bar visiting, and showing some friends around the city, so I decided to sing Try a Little Tenderness, thinking that it would, as usual, bring the house down. Well...let's just say it was lackluster. I felt I needed to strain to get into the highest parts of my range, and overall, my voice was very dry, and raspy. I tend towards a Rod Stewart-ish rasp anyway, but this was REALLY uncomfortable. NOT COOL. My voice was never like this pre-Paleo.

I'm horrified. Is it a lack of vitamins? I eat liver, and enjoy it, so I don't think it's the vitamin A. Why is Paleo destroying my voice??? HELP!

EDIT: I suppose I am VLC. I don't eat too much fruit, sometimes an apple or a banana for a snack. No dairy. I've been mostly eating grassfed beef steaks, ground beef, uncured bacon, lots of cruciferous veggies and mushrooms, all cooked in ghee or kerrygold, sometimes stir frys in coconut oil. I love sashimi. I love Braunschweiger as a source of liver, but I don't eat much other offal. I would eat it if I had a good source (and the money...a lil tight right now!) I drink coconut milk regularly, sneak a little coconut water here and there cuz I miss the sugar sometimes. I drink 1 or 2 cups of black tea a day, sometimes up to 4. I haven't really been drinking much alcohol, but when I do it's usually potato vodka or tequila and soda with lime. That's about it. I've been pretty strict with myself.

UPDATE: It's not my posture, it's not my breath control, it's my vocal chords/throat. I find that throughout the day, and especially in the morning, my throat and mouth are very dry. Is this a consequence, as others have said, of being VLC? If so, I'll introduce more carbs, but I don't want to negatively affect my efforts to become more lean, and see my 6-pack.

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on January 10, 2017
at 10:11 PM

since 2011 any answer to this . HELP! I  have had same prob.

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on April 04, 2011
at 09:02 PM

This was going to be my suggestion. Look into vegetables that are goitrogenic and avoid them for two weeks and then reintroduce one at a time to see how each of them affects your singing voice.

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on April 04, 2011
at 08:41 PM

kelp and seaweed. 3 kelp capsules is about 1g of iodine

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on April 03, 2011
at 06:44 AM

Conventional salt.

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on April 03, 2011
at 02:59 AM

In my case I wish that I _could_ attribute my singing voice on paleo (or any mitigating factor, for that matter), but alas; it _is_ what it _is_ (and always was, even on SAD). Cheers to you and your singing skills! :) Hope that you can suss out some answers - looks like the mucus thread holds clues.

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on April 03, 2011
at 02:00 AM

Yeah...but it doesn't really affect me like that. I haven't noticed alcohol affecting me more dramatically. If anything, I can drink more and not feel it, and the hangovers aren't as bad either. Don't think it was the booze that did it. It's definitely my diet.

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on April 03, 2011
at 01:58 AM

Sure...but that would mean that the alcohol wouldn't be the culprit here. That's never been a problem for me anyway though.

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on April 03, 2011
at 12:54 AM

In the words of Randy Jackson, "Dawg, I'm digging the paleo thang you're workin' here, but you need to consider your song choice." ALTERNATIVE explanation: My husband suggests that maybe prior in-the-city singing ventures involved slightly more copious amounts of alcohol in your prepaleo days compared to what you'd inbibe now (since paleo eating tends to make alcohol's effects more quickly felt...according to what I've read, anyway).

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on April 03, 2011
at 12:52 AM

In the words of Randy Jackson, "Dawg, I'm digging the paleo thang you're workin' here, but you need to consider your song choice."

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on April 03, 2011
at 12:26 AM

I've seen kelp/seaweed flakes marketed as a source of iodine in the Oriently foods section of your market - I have not tried this, but you asked about other sources...maybe someone else can chime in on this?

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on April 03, 2011
at 12:23 AM

This is also what I was thinking - the moment I dropped dairy I lost a lot of mucus secretion (couldn't think of how else to write that). I also noticed my singing (never stellar but entertaining enough to me in the car) and talking got a little more difficult and I'm drinking water like a fiend! I scanned the posted article and do not feel I am anywhere near the mucus/mucin deficiency issues they write about, but I am definitely producing less than before (and off my allergy meds so I'm think an underlying dairy allergy was the culprit and I am now producing mucus correctly for my body).

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on April 02, 2011
at 11:57 PM

Whoa. That's an eye opener.

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on April 02, 2011
at 11:53 PM

what are good iodine sources besides iodized table salt??

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on April 02, 2011
at 11:52 PM

I'm also very restrictive about sugar. But I do like Stephen-Aegis and feast on sweet potatoes after working out on gym days.

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on April 02, 2011
at 11:50 PM

I had acid reflux and was prescribed Prilosec for two years when I was 16 (14 years ago!), but it cleared itself up after that.

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on April 02, 2011
at 08:49 PM

Possible food allergy from something new? I sing and haven't notice anything like your situation since going Paleo over a year ago.

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on April 02, 2011
at 08:28 PM

tell us more about your diet. Are you very low carb? Med carb? Do you eat fruit? Vegetables? Broth?

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on April 02, 2011
at 08:26 PM

What kind of food are you eating?

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on April 02, 2011
at 10:48 PM

The Jaminets have posted about VLC inducing mucus deficiency... I could see this being detrimental to one's singing voice. Not sure if you are VLC but if so this might be of interest: http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=1077

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on April 03, 2011
at 12:23 AM

This is also what I was thinking - the moment I dropped dairy I lost a lot of mucus secretion (couldn't think of how else to write that). I also noticed my singing (never stellar but entertaining enough to me in the car) and talking got a little more difficult and I'm drinking water like a fiend! I scanned the posted article and do not feel I am anywhere near the mucus/mucin deficiency issues they write about, but I am definitely producing less than before (and off my allergy meds so I'm think an underlying dairy allergy was the culprit and I am now producing mucus correctly for my body).

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on April 02, 2011
at 11:57 PM

Whoa. That's an eye opener.

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on April 02, 2011
at 09:03 PM

Huh? I'm a classically trained singer and just the opposite has happened for me. I'm standing straighter, my support is better, more energy for long rehearsals, etc. Last night, at intermission for a LONG performance, I had half an apple and some cheese and it made all the difference.

What was your water source before? Do you eat fruit? Dare I ask, warm up? It could have nothing to do with the diet and just needing to use the muscles a little before launching into performance mode. That happens to everyone as we age. For me, even dry air and allergies make a mess of the upper reaches and the bottom, so that could be part of it.

If you're constantly thirsty, that needs to be addressed, and not just because of vocal production.

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on April 02, 2011
at 11:16 PM

Hoarseness can be a sign of thyroid malfunction. Any other thyroid symptoms? Sources of iodine in your diet?

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on April 03, 2011
at 12:26 AM

I've seen kelp/seaweed flakes marketed as a source of iodine in the Oriently foods section of your market - I have not tried this, but you asked about other sources...maybe someone else can chime in on this?

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(5242)

on April 03, 2011
at 06:44 AM

Conventional salt.

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on April 04, 2011
at 09:02 PM

This was going to be my suggestion. Look into vegetables that are goitrogenic and avoid them for two weeks and then reintroduce one at a time to see how each of them affects your singing voice.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on April 04, 2011
at 08:41 PM

kelp and seaweed. 3 kelp capsules is about 1g of iodine

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(5639)

on April 02, 2011
at 11:53 PM

what are good iodine sources besides iodized table salt??

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on April 02, 2011
at 09:08 PM

I've not seen much out there on how the paleo diet affects singing. So you could be leading the way here in terms of experimenting and getting info out.

Total conjecture on my side. You feel that you're dehydrated, affecting your voice. Echoing what the others are saying, what exactly is your diet like? You'll retain less water on a low carb diet. Maybe eat more tubers? How is your fat intake? Getting enough healthy fats?

Please post more on your experiences over time. I'm sure that others are in the same situation, and just not posting.

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on April 02, 2011
at 09:06 PM

It took about 8 weeks for me to adapt to a lower carb diet initially. At first, I was extremely thirsty, around the clock. Eventually, I could move through a range of carbs easily without the thirst issue.

If it's just the dryness issue, it will resolve over time but I am with Melissa. Tell us more.

What are you eating in terms of meat - muscle meat? organs aside from liver? Supplements?
How long have you been doing 'paleo'? What were you doing before? Any symptoms of GERD/reflux before paleo/primal or since?

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on April 02, 2011
at 11:50 PM

I had acid reflux and was prescribed Prilosec for two years when I was 16 (14 years ago!), but it cleared itself up after that.

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on April 04, 2011
at 08:43 PM

i would say that you probably arent eating enough fat. coconut milk is only one type, and doesnt cut it for most ppl. if you stopped doing dairy, this may be why, so track down some raw dairy, butter/cream or kefir the milk. start small, see how it goes. also some yams would help you retain some water, as would adding celtic sea salt in your drinking water.

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on April 02, 2011
at 10:07 PM

As the lead singer in my band, I have to say my singing voice improved dramatically once I began eating Paleo. I pretty sure the reduced inflammation from eliminating grains did the trick. I find it much easier to sing on pitch and the quality of my voice has improved. Of course, my stamina has improved tremendously and I have no problem performing for up to 5 hrs without losing my voice.

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