was my older question. i'll paste it below.
I have increased my carbs, but I haven't noticed any benefit. But I will keep this up because it is more convenient to consume carbs than avoid them. It may not be related, but after eating potatoes(maybe rice, i havent been keeping track) afterwards I get bloating and gas. Ive had that before, and I think the amount of times that happens is correlated to my carb/potato intake(ill have to double check on that though)
Doctors blood tests:
adrenals and thyroid- came up good. B12- above normal levels, so good. iron- good levels viral infections- none detected[the doctor thought this would be a highly likely cause of fatigue because im a teenager]
I don't know why, but I decided to cut the chocolate[70% cocoa]. I've been off it for about two or three days, and it wasnt it the previous question cause i didnt think it was relevant, but i had some pimples on my face. now its stopped appearing and i think it wouldnt. the only ingredients in it are coooa mass, cocoa butter, sugar, soy lecithin and tiny amount of vanilla flavor. i couldnt be bothered searching it up, but i have a hunch its the soy lecithin. its been really tempting to eat it especially when i cant find any other food but ive stopped. anyway it didnt seem to make a difference on my fatigue.
Also, another thing, I havent really been doing sprints lately because I cant be bothered. Maybe thats why Im so tired?
I'd really appreciate some more advice. High(er) carb and seeing the doctor didnt help, and that was pretty much what everyone said.
Here's my previous question:
"Why do I feel tired all the time? and I have brain fog?
I'm a 15 yr old guy. I've been paleo for about 1 or 2 years. Before that I was on the standard industrial diet, but I wasn't fat. I reckon now I'm pretty healthy, except that I feel tired all the time. I also have this brain fog that I can't get rid of. I've tried to find the cause of this, but it's very difficult. Going paleo helped a lot, but it's still there. It's manageable now when before it was a major issue.
It can't be a hydration issue- i drink about 2 cups (400 ml) of water every so often maybe 30 minutes to an hour. In total I estimate that I drink about 3-4 litres of water a day. I find that if I forget to drink water or I get to tired to refill, I feel massively worse, I may not need that much, but it's just a precaution because I've once drank only about 1-1 1/2 litres of water a day and I felt 5x worse than I usually do. I think switching to paleo made me need more water.
It can't be a vit D3 issue- while in the winter in New zealand (auckland, which is 37 degrees south, which is approximately equivalent to california?) I feel worse. right now summer has ended, and I have been going out regularly to midday sun without sunblock. VitD3 does help, but I'm pretty sure I'm not deficient.
It may be chemical poisoning, but I've cut pretty much all chemicals (bathroom products, processed foods, cleaning products) but I don't filter my water or eat organic, so I may be getting poisoned there. However, my friends drink the same water, eat a lot worse, and have chemicals like deodorants and soaps and stuff on them, and they arent tired. I don't take any medication/drugs by the way.
It may be vit B/B12, but I eat meat a lot more than my friends do, but they arent tired. It may be EMF radiation, but I don't use a microwave and I don't have a cellphone, which my friends use regularly. I do however use a laptop sometimes (most of the time im on a desktop). I also use wireless internet. and I have an Mp3 player I carry all the time. It may be sugar or caffiene- the main source of sugar I eat would be dark chocolate (70% cocoa) because I need that caffeine to keep going. I eat about 200 grams of that a day. But I heard studies proved dark chocolate was healthy, especially with the healthy fat in it. I also sometimes eat white rice/potatoes because of parents it is impractical to go 100% paleo. So I try and eat the "safe starches".
It may be stress/sleeping issues- but although I was stressed most of my life, I'm not stressed now. Also while I may be sleeping approx 10 minutes less a day, I catch up on the weekends. which is more than I can say for my friends, who again aren't tired. It may be adrenal fatigue due to the stress, but even with the stress removed, it helps, but its still there.
It may be candida etc due to sugar, but I eat a lot less sugar than most people. I don't think it's excercise because I do weights and sprints regularly (high intensity) Maybe everyone feels this tired, but I'm the only one complaining about it, so its unlikely.
It's not fair that I feel so tired and cant concentrate all the time, while my friends who eat 50%+ processed food/sugar have loads of energy. Also, my parents, while they are unhealthy(not that unhealthy, imagine the typical slightly overweight middleaged woman for my mom, while middleaged guy who looks thin with a slight pot belly for my dad) do not have this energy problem.
If anyone has any advice as to whats going on, I'd really appreciate it.
edit: Im going to try to add starches. But even when I was high carb once, I still was tired. Maybe it was due to other stuff, so I don't know for sure if starches helped."
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Mate, I vaguely remember reading something about teenagers going through a patch where no matter how much sleep they get they feel tired all the time. Part of growing up andgoing through changes. I don't remember experiencing it myself, (it's been 16 years since I was a teenager, but I used to be able to sleep for about 12 hours when I was our age, whereas now I'm lucky to last to 7. It might just be something you grow out of...fingers crossed.
I'm guessing that you have a food intolerance to something. I have an intolerance to casein (protein in dairy), and even a little bit of it will result in brain fog and exhaustion. It also give me anxiety and depression.
Sugar is not the problem. It may actually help. It's helped me out a lot. Please, google Ray Peat and Danny Roddy.
I notice that your original question was posted 12 days ago. Perhaps you need to give the changes more time.
I'm far from an expert, but a couple of observations from me:
- Are you actually getting enough sleep? I know that when I was a teenager I could easily sleep 12 hours a day.
- I know you say you've given it up, but 200g of even 70% chocolate is a heck of a lot of sugar. If you've given up the chocolate but aren't feeling any better yet, could be a candida infection perhaps which needs a lot of time to fix.
- If you're not sprinting, are you exercising at all? I do some running (not enough to be chronic cardio but probably more than recommended) and it makes all the difference to my energy levels.
- How about increasing carbs by eating more veggies rather than potatoes/rice etc?
...but perhaps you should look to find a doctor who specialises in functional medicine if you really believe there is something not right.
I would recommend these posts of mine:
Why you feel tired:
For brain fog:
For increasing higher level thinking:
Hope you feel better,
I'm have a much different profile than you, 47M, Paleo 14 months, but I just went through a bout of exhaustion and foggy-brain for about a month or so. I started tracking everything on FitDay and figured out that I just wasn't eating enough. I was about 200 to 500 Cal short every day for 14 months and my body finally said "enough!".
Are you eating enough? Unless I missed it, there's no mention of calorie intake. If you're growing centimeters in WEEKS...you gotta eat, eat, eat.
Perhaps all the food you're eating is going towards growing. I'm not sure what the most updated research says about nutrient partitioning is, but growing kids like yourself...you really gotta up those calories.
Samuel, you are not eating right.
WHAT TO EAT:
meats, fish, poultry, preferably grass-fed
vegetables - kale, collards, cabbage family, broccoli, onions, garlic, carrot, beets - are you eating them on a daily basis? you MUST.
WHAT NOT TO EAT: ANYTHING ELSE Try it for one month. It should help
Corn and potatoes are not vegetables. I believe you might be gluten intolerant. I did not have any other symptoms other than fatigue.
Also, just to make sure - how fast are you growing? Are you still growing or are you in the middle of a growth spur?
I remember mentioning before that you probably got dysbiosis, and if so, carbs/starch are the last thing you should be eating. I really don't think this has anything to do with your age. Recommending carbs just because you're a teen is a really bad argument. I recommend a high fat "GAPS intro"-style diet, at least to see if it helps. Keep in mind it takes 2+ weeks to get keto adapted.
I have a reaction to tannins in Dark Chocolate, so that could be it.
Do you have any allergies?
How is your digestion?
You could try this:
Have you had a stool test to check for any infections? The bloating/gas your experience may be pointing towards SIBO (small intestinal bacterial overgrowth)? Do you always experience these symptoms when eating starches/sugars?