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How to combat parasites and pathogenic flora?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 25, 2013 at 7:00 PM

I am almost done with re-building my good flora and killing off all the parasites. But I know some are still there. My friend and I had a prolonged discussion about it and basically, we disagree on how to reach recovery.

So I thought I would ask Paleohackers (you are the best). Could you please look over three different ways to go about it below and tell me which sounds better:

  1. Build your immunity (through naturopathic and conventional medicine) and all the parasites will die on their own.

  2. Kill off your parasites by using conventional and naturopathic medicine, then work on rebuilding your good flora.

  3. Eat healthy diet and use probiotics to crowd out the bad guys (I have already tried it, it does not work for me).

Thanks!!!

7fb5e7849c5d9d8ebdfa9d36786b1fe9

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on July 01, 2014
at 02:34 PM

I would love to hear more about this huge black parasite you crapped out. Or is 'parasite' just euphemism for a giant turd?

1312a6121b7e742573091342575fd110

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on November 13, 2013
at 01:23 AM

Wouldn't DE rid you of both pathogens and helpful parasites?

1312a6121b7e742573091342575fd110

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on November 11, 2013
at 07:25 PM

Thanks, Shawn. I am pretty sure I have some nasty parasites creating all kinds of digestive issues that are inhibiting my life more and more every year. I'm looking at wormwood and black walnut (think that was it), but will definitely consider DE instead.

F4ae81f342d8f66d784bf5e5c04dc00a

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on August 02, 2013
at 02:29 AM

Let me clarify - FOOD GRADE diatomaceous earth. Not pool filter quality or bedbug killing powder. BIG difference. Food-grade DE is already included in flour as an anti-caking agent, and has been declared by the EPA as safe for human consumption. Organic food-grade DE is simply silica - no harm, no foul.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on July 26, 2013
at 08:32 PM

What parasite killer supplements did you take?

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on July 26, 2013
at 08:32 PM

Wow. Thank you so much for sharing. Not sure I am ready foe enemas yet. I will think about it.

448856e75f0af457a37c3f6b912ab9e0

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on July 26, 2013
at 02:46 PM

It won't be the same as the enemas, though. I hate enemas, but I had to do them. Really helped. Also, check out some natural parasite killers like black walnut and garlic cloves. Inducing less sugar, taking parasite killer supplements, and doing these enemas raised me from an early grave.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on July 26, 2013
at 06:24 AM

Thanks. I am not big on enemas. Can I just drink coffee instead?

33266cca338ab54cee9a2aa160f5bdb6

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on July 26, 2013
at 03:31 AM

This might be the way to go. My slate seemed to be cleaned enough by simply eating raw carrot, outside of my meals, for about a month. So some sort of anti-parasitic/fungal/bacterial action might benefit you as it did me.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on July 25, 2013
at 09:14 PM

I have protozoan parasites - they are invisible to the eye.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on July 25, 2013
at 08:55 PM

OMG - it is poisonous! I have intestinal parasites, not bedbugs!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 25, 2013
at 08:37 PM

Thanks. The worst part is they are so hard to identify!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 25, 2013
at 08:36 PM

Thanks! Interesting - never heard of it.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on July 25, 2013
at 08:07 PM

Stool and blood test. I don't know where I got them from and for how long I have had them. Maybe my whole entire life? I will never know.

235e74b9adb57eff80592f064e1d298b

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on July 25, 2013
at 07:48 PM

are we talking about the same thing??

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on July 25, 2013
at 07:21 PM

That was my choice as well :)

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3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on July 25, 2013
at 07:11 PM

I'm a clean-slate kind of guy. So I would go with #2. Start fresh and rebuild.

In my experience,

3 Doesn't really work

1 could work, but your are ice-skating up hill.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 25, 2013
at 07:21 PM

That was my choice as well :)

33266cca338ab54cee9a2aa160f5bdb6

(502)

on July 26, 2013
at 03:31 AM

This might be the way to go. My slate seemed to be cleaned enough by simply eating raw carrot, outside of my meals, for about a month. So some sort of anti-parasitic/fungal/bacterial action might benefit you as it did me.

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448856e75f0af457a37c3f6b912ab9e0

on July 26, 2013
at 02:35 AM

Try coffee and apple cider vinegar enemas. Those are usually the big hits within the parasite-ridding community.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 26, 2013
at 06:24 AM

Thanks. I am not big on enemas. Can I just drink coffee instead?

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 26, 2013
at 08:32 PM

Wow. Thank you so much for sharing. Not sure I am ready foe enemas yet. I will think about it.

448856e75f0af457a37c3f6b912ab9e0

(278)

on July 26, 2013
at 02:46 PM

It won't be the same as the enemas, though. I hate enemas, but I had to do them. Really helped. Also, check out some natural parasite killers like black walnut and garlic cloves. Inducing less sugar, taking parasite killer supplements, and doing these enemas raised me from an early grave.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 26, 2013
at 08:32 PM

What parasite killer supplements did you take?

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8aaa4fdba9ab892943431d3f37b7039a

on July 25, 2013
at 09:07 PM

i did a cleanse with vegetable juices and one day made a tea with indian long pepper, i crapped out a huge black parasite straight away. i use diatomaceous earth too with no ill effects...and my hair and nails got healthier, that was even before paleo too. i've read cloves will get rid of them, and they hate bitter foods like watercress, pumpkin seeds, garlic....check here http://www.healingfoodreference.com/parasites.html they love sugars so don't give them too much of those.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 25, 2013
at 09:14 PM

I have protozoan parasites - they are invisible to the eye.

7fb5e7849c5d9d8ebdfa9d36786b1fe9

(178)

on July 01, 2014
at 02:34 PM

I would love to hear more about this huge black parasite you crapped out. Or is 'parasite' just euphemism for a giant turd?

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235e74b9adb57eff80592f064e1d298b

on July 25, 2013
at 08:16 PM

Parasites are BAD, I would go with 2 as well. You need to eliminate them from your system... Stat!! Then worry about rebuilding your gut, as long as you have parasites running wild through your digestive tract it doesn't matter what diet your on or what you do to keep your flora.

I personally do not know how to naturally get rid of parasites, although Im sure there is some rainforest remedy out there, I would just get them out of system ASAP and repair what you need to repair when its done.

Good Luck!!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 25, 2013
at 08:37 PM

Thanks. The worst part is they are so hard to identify!

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F4ae81f342d8f66d784bf5e5c04dc00a

on July 25, 2013
at 08:16 PM

I've read a lot about the benefits of using a mechanical method to destroy parasites, such as diatomaceous earth, rather than herbal mixtures that only work for a couple species at a time and eventually become tolerated. Worth a shot - the stuff is cheap on Amazon.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 25, 2013
at 08:55 PM

OMG - it is poisonous! I have intestinal parasites, not bedbugs!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 25, 2013
at 08:36 PM

Thanks! Interesting - never heard of it.

F4ae81f342d8f66d784bf5e5c04dc00a

(43)

on August 02, 2013
at 02:29 AM

Let me clarify - FOOD GRADE diatomaceous earth. Not pool filter quality or bedbug killing powder. BIG difference. Food-grade DE is already included in flour as an anti-caking agent, and has been declared by the EPA as safe for human consumption. Organic food-grade DE is simply silica - no harm, no foul.

1312a6121b7e742573091342575fd110

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on November 11, 2013
at 07:25 PM

Thanks, Shawn. I am pretty sure I have some nasty parasites creating all kinds of digestive issues that are inhibiting my life more and more every year. I'm looking at wormwood and black walnut (think that was it), but will definitely consider DE instead.

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235e74b9adb57eff80592f064e1d298b

on July 25, 2013
at 07:48 PM

Where did you get parasites from?? And how do you know you have parasites??

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 25, 2013
at 08:07 PM

Stool and blood test. I don't know where I got them from and for how long I have had them. Maybe my whole entire life? I will never know.

235e74b9adb57eff80592f064e1d298b

(421)

on July 25, 2013
at 07:48 PM

are we talking about the same thing??

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47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

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on July 01, 2014
at 06:22 AM

They may also be friendly, you can find it if you search helminthic therapies. If they don't give you symptoms, it may not be necessary to worry about them, and none of the methods are proven to work on all parasites, so you may also end up with a weakened microbiota and the same parasites.

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on November 13, 2013
at 01:38 AM

Sounds like you are just taking a shot in the dark. I mean, what specific parasites do you have, how did you come to know that you have them, and --most importantly-- what effects are they having on you?

Are these parasites "bad"? Many parasites are beneficial to their host.

If you aren't already aware of the fact that some helminth parasites in infants protect them from some types of allergies.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2680069/

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on November 12, 2013
at 11:31 PM

you can have parasites and never know it - I vote for eating natural foods and also consume plenty of probiotics. Also diatomaceous earth is supposed to rid you of all parasites too. I have been taking it daily and have had no bad effects from it. It is basically silica with a lot of other necesary minerals in, so also a good mineral supplement.

1312a6121b7e742573091342575fd110

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on November 13, 2013
at 01:23 AM

Wouldn't DE rid you of both pathogens and helpful parasites?

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on November 11, 2013
at 09:36 PM

I got a gastroenterology appointment last week and asked for some simple tests to find out about chronic infections I might have and was basically told to calm down and get out unless I wanted them to stick a scope in me. I tried to explain that I had some theories about what was bothering me and thought I might have a parasite or some sort of dysbiosis (actually got a bit technical in the office); I just wanted to get some simple tests done. No go... They tried to sell me on tumors, polyps, and hemroids and the whole scope thing one more time and I left with a pamphlet.

I don't know what it is with these guys about scoping up people's back sides. I had the same thing happen when I was younger and wanted some relief from some minor chronic digestive issues. They tried to freak me out about all the tumors and stuff I might have and scope my ass (literally) and I left with my tail between my legs. After all these years I got up the courage to go back and they tried the same thing.

Why are these butt doctors so hesitant to just do some non-invasive basic testing when they're gung-ho about knocking you out and looking inside you rear? I ain't that pretty I swear.

I'm sorry. I just needed to vent about that experience.

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on November 11, 2013
at 07:55 PM

How did discover that you had parasites? I've heard of it before but noone I've ever known has had it so I no nooothing bout it.

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1312a6121b7e742573091342575fd110

on November 11, 2013
at 07:28 PM

What did you end up going with? Did you use something to flush out the parasites? I'm between DE and a Black Walnut Wormwood complex.

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