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I LOATHE steak. Am I doomed on Paleo?

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Created March 11, 2011 at 12:48 AM

I am new to Paleo and I really love it so far, but I see everywhere people just practically writhing in gastronomic pleasure due to how much steak they get to eat.

I hate steak. The taste, the mouth feel, the smell, the gushing juices... I am all for other people enjoying it, like my husband. But while he's eating that, please give me a plate of bacon, or fish, or crab legs, or chicken. Anything but steak. I should mention that I really love a good hamburger (without the bun/sweetened condiments of course!) and I think that's because the texture of a hamburger is more even since everything is ground together.

Do you think if I stick to grass fed organic ground beef that I can get away with not eating steak? I've given it many spirited tries and I just don't ever want to eat it again. I honestly end up horking it down as fast as I can to get to the veggies on my plate.

Additionally - I never see anyone mentioning ham as a Paleo food. I would assume that this is due to the Nitrates in almost all Ham. Does anyone know if you can get any Paleo friendly Ham or is that an impossibility? *

Thank you everyone!


9b8128587fdbd8cb99b6ac6dd183f15a

on March 24, 2011
at 10:05 PM

Thanks for the feedback!

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(5639)

on March 17, 2011
at 05:03 PM

What brand of Liverwurst does US Wellness sell? I usually buy the Jones brand Braunschweiger. I LOVE it. It had bacon added, gluten free and no hormones. It does have alot of nitrites/nitrates in it though, but others have mentioned that it's not a huge problem.

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on March 17, 2011
at 11:05 AM

There is a vast difference between obsessing, and making sure you're actually doing the program.

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on March 12, 2011
at 06:59 PM

Go for the seafood!

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on March 11, 2011
at 02:25 PM

Does it needs to be the right kind of fish though, gillie? Like wild caught and salmon and all that jazz? Or is any fish helpful? I am trying to expand my fish horizons, right now I really only like plainer white fishes.

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on March 11, 2011
at 02:15 PM

Christina, I'd suggest trying a really good liverwurst to get your organ meats. Someone else has cooked the organs and ground them together into a "sausage." I get my liverwurst from U.S. Wellness meats (no chemical preservatives and grass-fed).

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(13978)

on March 11, 2011
at 02:13 PM

You don't need to limit chicken if you get enough fish.

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(18701)

on March 11, 2011
at 01:48 PM

"Pastured" chickens are better, they don't eat grass exclusively. They usually eat a wide range of stuff, but they are not grain fed. You really can't find them in stores, you have to find a local farmer. Check out www.eatwild.com if you haven't already to find local options. If that's not a viable option, just try to stick to the hormone/anti-biotic free stuff and only have it about once a week. It's the Omega 3/6 ratios that aren't great in the conventional stuff.

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on March 11, 2011
at 04:18 AM

Chicken feet (I know, I know) makes for, in my opinion, the best broth this side of ox tails (which can be quite expensive). They're pretty much all gelatin and fat. Also, best invest in a good gravy separator, all those chicken fats are quite unnecessary :)

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on March 11, 2011
at 02:17 AM

Yes, where WOULD one find things like uncured hams?

9b8128587fdbd8cb99b6ac6dd183f15a

on March 11, 2011
at 02:14 AM

I love to make broth out of bones/skin/fat etc. :) I would be willing to eat steak meat in more of a soup/stew environment, I reckon, and that'd be a great way to use the bones. Hmmmm... organs, huh? Any recommendations? I am really sensitive to texture... I hate "boingy" gelatinous things like squid, etc. so I've always been a little wary of offal.

9b8128587fdbd8cb99b6ac6dd183f15a

on March 11, 2011
at 02:12 AM

Thank you Shari! There's a lot of "obsessing" in this diet - kind of the opposite of any other conventional diet that I've seen... well, yes, the exact opposite. Like "are you getting ENOUGH fats?" etc. Just getting used to wrapping my mind around a completely different train of thought!

9b8128587fdbd8cb99b6ac6dd183f15a

on March 11, 2011
at 02:11 AM

:D I got the biggest kick out of this little transaction. Yeah we try to eat ground beef every other day... I'm sure we'll figure out what we need to do as we go along; we are VERY new to Paleo. I love it so far though! I'm feeling more and more free of my food obsessions.

9b8128587fdbd8cb99b6ac6dd183f15a

on March 11, 2011
at 02:10 AM

Thank you! :) Is there a better way to get chicken? I've never heard of grass fed chicken; I'm not sure they'll even eat grass. I get eggs from my dad's coworker - they're pet chickens so they eat grubs and all the really good stuff. I don't think I realized that I should be limiting chicken.

9b8128587fdbd8cb99b6ac6dd183f15a

on March 11, 2011
at 02:08 AM

Hahaha! NOOOO they'll never take me alive! ;)

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(39821)

on March 11, 2011
at 01:55 AM

My laziness must be contagious.

F9a0b72f38860d7601afd5a45bb53394

(3618)

on March 11, 2011
at 01:43 AM

Whoops. I needed to read your whole post too. LOL

F9a0b72f38860d7601afd5a45bb53394

(3618)

on March 11, 2011
at 01:43 AM

She likes beef. Just not steak. Something about the muscle meat texture gets to her.

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on March 11, 2011
at 01:04 AM

;-) *Passes the salmon peace offering.*

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(11581)

on March 11, 2011
at 01:03 AM

The paleo police have been notified. For your own safety, please do not resist. You will be taken to a reeducation barbecue for rehabilitation. Good luck.

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7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

on March 11, 2011
at 12:53 AM

You are not doomed. Eat your grass-fed ground beef and fish as your main protein sources, supplement with bacon and occasional chicken. You'll be fine.

9b8128587fdbd8cb99b6ac6dd183f15a

on March 11, 2011
at 02:10 AM

Thank you! :) Is there a better way to get chicken? I've never heard of grass fed chicken; I'm not sure they'll even eat grass. I get eggs from my dad's coworker - they're pet chickens so they eat grubs and all the really good stuff. I don't think I realized that I should be limiting chicken.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on March 11, 2011
at 02:25 PM

Does it needs to be the right kind of fish though, gillie? Like wild caught and salmon and all that jazz? Or is any fish helpful? I am trying to expand my fish horizons, right now I really only like plainer white fishes.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on March 11, 2011
at 01:48 PM

"Pastured" chickens are better, they don't eat grass exclusively. They usually eat a wide range of stuff, but they are not grain fed. You really can't find them in stores, you have to find a local farmer. Check out www.eatwild.com if you haven't already to find local options. If that's not a viable option, just try to stick to the hormone/anti-biotic free stuff and only have it about once a week. It's the Omega 3/6 ratios that aren't great in the conventional stuff.

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on March 11, 2011
at 02:13 PM

You don't need to limit chicken if you get enough fish.

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on March 11, 2011
at 12:54 AM

You'd like get out of whack with PUFAs and omega-6 if all you ate were servings of corn-fed chicken and pigs, although I suppose the fish would balance out some of the omega-6, but add more PUFAs. You could try different cuts or different recipes to see if it appeals to you, but even if you never eat ruminant flesh, your diet will be exponentially more healthy than your previous diet likely was.

Edit: Actually read your post for real this time and saw the ground beef; in that case, you're fine. Uncured ham wouldn't be all that bad to eat, if you can find it.

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(39821)

on March 11, 2011
at 01:55 AM

My laziness must be contagious.

F9a0b72f38860d7601afd5a45bb53394

(3618)

on March 11, 2011
at 01:43 AM

She likes beef. Just not steak. Something about the muscle meat texture gets to her.

9b8128587fdbd8cb99b6ac6dd183f15a

on March 11, 2011
at 02:11 AM

:D I got the biggest kick out of this little transaction. Yeah we try to eat ground beef every other day... I'm sure we'll figure out what we need to do as we go along; we are VERY new to Paleo. I love it so far though! I'm feeling more and more free of my food obsessions.

F9a0b72f38860d7601afd5a45bb53394

(3618)

on March 11, 2011
at 01:43 AM

Whoops. I needed to read your whole post too. LOL

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on March 11, 2011
at 01:10 AM

I rarely eat steak because I simply can't afford it. I absolutely loathe roasts of any kind and will never, ever eat one. Life is way to short to eat stuff you don't enjoy. I stick to ground beef, chicken, pork and seafood for my animal flesh.

I think you'll be just fine.

9b8128587fdbd8cb99b6ac6dd183f15a

on March 11, 2011
at 02:12 AM

Thank you Shari! There's a lot of "obsessing" in this diet - kind of the opposite of any other conventional diet that I've seen... well, yes, the exact opposite. Like "are you getting ENOUGH fats?" etc. Just getting used to wrapping my mind around a completely different train of thought!

9cfa1ab909f6f89544be665d4ef6e3ea

on March 17, 2011
at 11:05 AM

There is a vast difference between obsessing, and making sure you're actually doing the program.

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F9a0b72f38860d7601afd5a45bb53394

(3618)

on March 11, 2011
at 01:45 AM

Along with what everyone else has said, it's not what I'd call ideal to rely solely on muscle meat. If you can stand the idea of eating organ meat you might consider doing so every now and again. Also learn how to make bone broth and get some gelatin (from the broth or the packets) into your diet. Much better amino profile that way--yes, you get complete protein from muscles, but the amino balance is still just a little bit skewed, and the gelatin has a corrective effect. Ray Peat's written some about that, and I know someone who's had a longtime sleep disorder but is sleeping much better on gelatin and wakes up better in the mornings too.

Nuttin' wrong with eating ground beef though. Ground beef's nummy.

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

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on March 11, 2011
at 02:15 PM

Christina, I'd suggest trying a really good liverwurst to get your organ meats. Someone else has cooked the organs and ground them together into a "sausage." I get my liverwurst from U.S. Wellness meats (no chemical preservatives and grass-fed).

07154e6d8e42065f230d06249700fe5b

(2052)

on March 11, 2011
at 04:18 AM

Chicken feet (I know, I know) makes for, in my opinion, the best broth this side of ox tails (which can be quite expensive). They're pretty much all gelatin and fat. Also, best invest in a good gravy separator, all those chicken fats are quite unnecessary :)

9b8128587fdbd8cb99b6ac6dd183f15a

on March 11, 2011
at 02:14 AM

I love to make broth out of bones/skin/fat etc. :) I would be willing to eat steak meat in more of a soup/stew environment, I reckon, and that'd be a great way to use the bones. Hmmmm... organs, huh? Any recommendations? I am really sensitive to texture... I hate "boingy" gelatinous things like squid, etc. so I've always been a little wary of offal.

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(5639)

on March 17, 2011
at 05:03 PM

What brand of Liverwurst does US Wellness sell? I usually buy the Jones brand Braunschweiger. I LOVE it. It had bacon added, gluten free and no hormones. It does have alot of nitrites/nitrates in it though, but others have mentioned that it's not a huge problem.

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on March 11, 2011
at 02:59 PM

I never used to be a big steak eater, because whenever I went out to eat with a group of people, most of them would order steak (especially the men, because steak is especially manly, y'know), and then they'd be sending it back because it was overcooked or undercooked or gristly or whatever. Meanwhile I'd be enjoying my fish, not even having had to instruct the cook how to prepare it.

In recent years, I've gotten good pasture-raised beef and learned to cook a steak properly myself, and under those conditions I love a good steak now and then. But if I'm eating out, I still order fish 90% of the time. Don't see why that can't be just as paleo.

On the subject of ham, the curing process does require nitrites, but you can get them from different sources. The common source is sodium nitrate, which converts to sodium nitrite during the process. The "natural" option is to use celery juice, which has lots of naturally-occurring nitrites. So it's possible to get cured meat that's labeled "no nitrites added" that's actually higher in nitrites than standard cured meats, because the nitrites from vegetable sources aren't counted as "added". Go figure. Anyway, I don't suppose cured meats can be considered "paleo" in the strict sense; but if you're worried about nitrates/nitrites, do some research about how tenuous the nitrite-cancer connection is and the evidence of beneficial gut effects of nitrites, and you might not worry about them anymore.

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on March 11, 2011
at 12:30 PM

I think you'll be completely fine, I never eat steak, apart from the 4-5 times a year I go to a restaurant. It's unjustifiably expensive. I do still eat beef muscle meat from mince, joints (some of which are rump/sirloin, so the same as a steak anyway) and stewed beef (oxtail, braising steak etc). If it's the texture and redness of steak that you don't like, I'd have thought that stewed or well done meat would be relatively palatable though. Incidentally if you were to get a steak (for some reason), couldn't you just grind it up into ground beef anyway?

I would suggest having chicken relatively infrequently, rather than as a staple. The fat of chicken is about 13% o-6 and I've seen no evidence that this improves substantially if the chickens are better fed. Even if you leave aside the fat though, the meat is quite substantially less nutritious than red meat. Of course, if you just want a tasty source of protein then it's fine, but not a staple for meaty nutrients.

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on March 11, 2011
at 06:07 AM

I feel the same way! My staple is ground gf beef and ground venison. A big bowl of that with a spoon and I'm a happy carnivore. It's my comfort food!

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on March 17, 2011
at 10:27 AM

Sign me up for the "I Hate Steak" club. I was raised on a farm, and we never had steak - but we had beef almost every night for dinner. I think most of the steak was ground up for hamburger. Anyway, I'm like you - the red "juice" (blood?) which runs out when it is cut just absolutely grosses me out. I think it was one of the things that sent me over the edge - and made me a vegan for an entire year.

I'm recovering now. I enjoy ground beef - and crockpot-cooked roasts...yum.

9b8128587fdbd8cb99b6ac6dd183f15a

on March 24, 2011
at 10:05 PM

Thanks for the feedback!

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on March 11, 2011
at 03:32 PM

I don't see why you'd be doomed to failure - there's a lot more to a cow than just steak. We eat it maybe once a month at best, but eat a great deal of ground beef, roasts, stew meat, brisket and braising cuts like bottom round, which may be labeled "steak" but needs long, slow cooking.

As for ham, we source pastured hogs from a local farmer and always ask that our hams and bacon be processed without MSG or nitrates. They are brined in salt, then cold smoked. Very, very tasty when prepared properly, but a completely different from a chemically cured, commercial ham.

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on March 11, 2011
at 10:09 AM

I'm not a huge fan of just a slab of steak. But I'm glad there are TONS of options out there.

Lamb: ground, shank, ribs... delicious. Pork: shoulder is my favorite; bacon is amazing; loin is great when cooked properly; pork belly is sinfully delicious! Bison: ground is delicious for chillies. Fish: tons and tons of options. Fowl: chicken and duck!

Obviously a big steak is out of the question, but I do love steak cut into fajita strips, or stew meat that I slow cook all day.

Paleo isn't just steak!

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