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i cant digest 85% of fruits and vegetables?

Commented on December 08, 2014
Created May 05, 2013 at 8:43 PM

when i eat any type of fruit or vegetable (except things like broccoli/califlower, avocados, carrots, yams, or mangos) i get diarrhea

kale,collards, mustard greens, parsley/cilantro, spinach, pretty much any leafy green and berries/grapes are the main inducers of this issue.

what could be causing this?

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on May 07, 2013
at 09:50 PM

I understand the health benefits of paleo, but I take everything with a massive grain of salt. Maybe it's the copywriter in me, but when I read the words cleanse, system and toxins etc. I immediately think hippie jargon. I can accept certain things are bad, but what you are suggesting, sounds like if I eat the SAD, I'll get a coating of cheeto dust in my gut so I can eat junk. That's an exaggeration, but I'd think that'd be considered a cool evolutionary trick, if we could jam our bodies full of "crap" to enable us to survive off the crap, and handle intolerance's. Do you have a better example

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on May 06, 2013
at 02:49 PM

Your digestion system changes when you go paleo. Almost everyone who eats paleo will tell you that when they eat paleo for a while, if they go back and eat SAD food, they will be sick. Why? They ate that food for decades with no problems, right? Once you start cleaning out the system (and quit pounding your body with crap), you "wake up" your deadened sensitivities, and notice things you didn't before. For most of us, these intolerances are a good diagnostic tool for further healing. http://perfecthealthdiet.com/category/disease/allergy-food-sensitivity/

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come on guys, help me out here.. whats going on with me why can i digest anything?

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strict paleo. through trial and error, ive figured it out that the above mentioned foods are what is causing my issues.

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on May 06, 2013
at 03:56 AM

Greens are coated in cellulose, which is natural, and we don't digest it. It's why we could eat wood, but wouldn't benefit from it. With these food, maybe try steaming them and then put them though a magic bullet before eating them. See if it's actually them or you simply aren't breaking them down enough before consuming. I know that I have a similar issue recently, so making sure I really concentrate on chewing them well and cutting them fine can help.

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on May 05, 2013
at 11:08 PM

My first guess is you can't tolerate oxalates. Search oxalates on here. Here's a list:

http://www.ohf.org/docs/OxalateContent092003.pdf

Second guess is FODMAP intolerance:

http://www.eat-real-food-paleodietitian.com/support-files/Paleo-FODMAP-food-list.pdf

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on May 06, 2014
at 02:35 AM

@Kathy 18, that sounds like an allergic reaction to fruit. It could be what they call fructose intolerance (different than fructose malabsorption) and you should have it diagnosed formally by gastroenterologist. It's pretty dangerous actually, so diagnosis is important. And continued exposure to the allergic item is likely to make the symptoms worse.

I don't think a vegetable should give the symptoms you describe. Is it possible that only starchy vegetables like potatoes, yams, rice, etc cause those symptoms? If yes, that suggests anything rapidly converting to sugar is causing the issue. Maybe you have some kind of gut infection and the sugar feeds that?

Non starchy vegetables like spinach/greens, peas, cauliflower, mushrooms, onions, etc should really not be causing bloating. Those are really important foods in terms of nutrition.

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on May 05, 2014
at 03:19 PM

@kathy 18 What you are describing with difficulty breathing and feeling like throat is closing IS AN ALLERGIC REACTION! You need to try an elimination diet quickly, You obviously have antibodies to a food source. I very much doubt that H pylori would cause such a reaction. Research FODMAP diet to learn how to do proper elimination. First eliminate grains, including corn. Just read more. Also this elimination diet will also probably stop your acid reflux. (Acid inhibitors ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS.)

P.S. If your gastroenterologist prescribed your med, I presume he did a gastroscopy on you and they always check for H pylori. If he did not do a gastroscopy and just prescribed the med, you have the wrong doctor.

From a retired health care worker.

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on May 03, 2014
at 02:15 AM

You may have fructose malabsorption. Far from being a rare thing, one out of three people of European descent do not digest fructose well, in various degrees. The test for this is a hydrogen breath test for fructose malabsorption. Unfortunately, finding a lab that can give you this test is hard. Typically these are done in the gastro lab of major hospitals, and also at university hospitals.

Go to a gastroenterologist, describe the symptoms, and ask him if you can have a fructose malabsorption hydrogen breath test, and he can probably help you set that up.

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on May 02, 2014
at 04:22 AM

You cannot get "hooked" on enzymes. You absolutely need them. As we age, our bodies don't produce them as much and they're necessary for digestion. There are different types. I take pancreatic enzymes but there are plant based ones, as well. If I go more than a day without taking them, I don't digest a thing and I'm sick for days. Go to a good natural health food store and talk to them about the best ones. And the probiotics well help a great deal, as well.

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on May 01, 2014
at 04:47 AM

Try incorporation yogurt, kefir, and the occasional bubbies or other kosher sauerkraut and very small amounts of the offending foods every day or two. Good chance it will do wonders.

Digestive enzymes are a great supplement too. Just don't get hooked.

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on May 01, 2014
at 02:55 AM

I cannot digest lettuce, apples, corn, peas, raw carrot, and many other fruits and veggies. If I eat a meal high in these I just poop it out in the same condition I chewed it. If I ate only a sald during the day I would poop that thing out in the exact condition, except chewed. It's kind of amazing really, and I'm clearly getting no nutrition from it. I pretty much have about 90% of my poops as diaharia and fruit and veggies always cause it. I've only been diagnosed with heartburn and take a daily pill. I can't find any info on the web and my Dr doesn't seem to think its a real problem.

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on November 12, 2013
at 04:03 AM

DW would get bad stomach cramping and gas with fiberous greens (interesting that it's not broccoli with you, but other greens instead!) and adding a little organic kefir changed that up. Maybe it's your gut flora.

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on November 12, 2013
at 03:18 AM

@kathy 18 Helicobacter Pylori (H. Pylori), a bacterial infection that can lead to the issues you mentioned as well as stomach ulcers.

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on August 20, 2013
at 08:01 AM

Contrary to supposition, I was not a SAD consumer. I was vegetarian for 6 years. Not a carb vegetarian, either. I ate mostly vegetables and fruits and legumes. Now off the vegetarian diet/lifestyle I find I am unable to tolerate ANY fruits or veggies in any form, cooked in any way, or raw. My stomach will distend immediately to the point that I am in actual pain, breathing becomes labored, my distal joints (especially wrists and ankles) will swell, my energy levels plummet and I will be constipated for days. Or, conversely will have bouts of diarrhea that last for days. My throat feels like it is closing up and unless I take an antihistamine, I will soon not be able to take a deep breath. Laying down seems to exacerbate the symptoms. What do you make of that?

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on December 08, 2014
at 08:39 AM

I have the same problem!  I was a "healthy" and informed vegetarian for 14 years.  Now, I can't eat any vegetables in any form (even pureed!) without debilitating reactions including distention, pain that lasts many hours, sometimes vomiting.  Also worsens when I lay down.

 

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on May 06, 2013
at 12:50 AM

Having spent a lot of my life eating mexican food, I always assumed occasional diarrhea was par for the course when eating good food.

I wouldn't be so quick to assume someone has an intolerance. No offense, it just seems like most people on a paleo diet suddenly self diagnose themselves with intolerance they never noticed before. Yes real issues can surface with any diet, but to cut our a large number of foods, because you pooped a little isn't right.

If you're drinking a lot of water, and eating a lot of leafy greens, and fruits and moving a lot I could see diarrhea as what happens (I ate a lot of kale and drank tons of water yesterday and same issue with me today). Diarrhea is also caused by excess sugar (fruit etc) and bacteria (do you wash the greens and stuff well before eating??

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on May 06, 2013
at 02:49 PM

Your digestion system changes when you go paleo. Almost everyone who eats paleo will tell you that when they eat paleo for a while, if they go back and eat SAD food, they will be sick. Why? They ate that food for decades with no problems, right? Once you start cleaning out the system (and quit pounding your body with crap), you "wake up" your deadened sensitivities, and notice things you didn't before. For most of us, these intolerances are a good diagnostic tool for further healing. http://perfecthealthdiet.com/category/disease/allergy-food-sensitivity/

6e7fd5e6b6bac84f326183c76e96b370

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on May 07, 2013
at 09:50 PM

I understand the health benefits of paleo, but I take everything with a massive grain of salt. Maybe it's the copywriter in me, but when I read the words cleanse, system and toxins etc. I immediately think hippie jargon. I can accept certain things are bad, but what you are suggesting, sounds like if I eat the SAD, I'll get a coating of cheeto dust in my gut so I can eat junk. That's an exaggeration, but I'd think that'd be considered a cool evolutionary trick, if we could jam our bodies full of "crap" to enable us to survive off the crap, and handle intolerance's. Do you have a better example

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on May 05, 2013
at 09:05 PM

What else are you eating?

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on May 05, 2013
at 09:09 PM

strict paleo. through trial and error, ive figured it out that the above mentioned foods are what is causing my issues.

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