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Hack my Addition of Foods I am Intolerant to

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 03, 2011 at 4:00 PM

Short Summary: Leaky gut for 3 years (thanks to a high dose antibiotic). Symptoms: Constant inflamed/swollen digestive tract, gas-burping-bloating from hell, and constipation.

Testing & trials reveal high IGG allergies to casein, eggs, gluten. Eating those foods cause noticeable worsening on my current symptoms Not eating those foods I still have the above symptoms. My diet is autoimmune paleo -still the same symptoms.

Should be noted that I have seen every kind of doctor and provider and have had all the standard tests and more. I have tried everything under the sun -from autohemotherapy to over $1K in probiotics to acupuncture to every kind of digestive enzyme to iv vitamins. (also including everything on Dr.K's recent leaky gut post except the last option). Not a damn thing has touched this issue.

The common procedure has been to have me avoid those IGG foods while I do mass amounts of treatments (see above) to heal the leaky gut.

A new provider (I know you might guess who it is, but thats not the point here) has suggested that dairy and eggs are necessary to heal the leaky gut and that I had been eating them the wrong way -creating that inflammatory response. By food combining and a few other things, I should heal my gut while overcoming these intolerance's. This provider wants me to limit/expand my diet to: Beef, Broths, dairy, eggs, oj, raw carrots, cooked apples.

What do you think? Should I risk confronting my IGG intolerance's to egg/casein head on? I am super nervous!

Thanks! Note: I have nearly given up on health care professionals so yes, that is why I am asking you guys!!

UPDATE: The eggs had to go after 2 weeks. Serious allergic reaction, despite the food combinations meant to stop that possible reaction. I am still on the raw milk. Still feel moderately better than normal. Month UPDATE: I am still on the raw milk and the rest of the diet as listed above (minus the eggs). I am feeling better than I have in 3 years!

Oct 20 Update: Thanks to some good advice, I found a brand of eggs that doesn't supplement with Soy feed. Worked! Have been eating 2 eggs a day for past 3 weeks with no bad reaction. However the Milk thing was a total bust! I drank grassfed raw milk every day for 2 months and I was experiencing horrible breakouts, GI upset, and weight gain. (Not so from other dairy products). So the Milk is off the menu. (I have even been working with a enzyme therapist, who claims that enzymes can make me digest the milk properly, not so!).

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on March 05, 2012
at 08:17 PM

Korion -I react also to poultry and pork that have been fed soy. The reaction is inflammation in the gut. From the stomach on down. It feels like everything is bruised. I can't be hugged or touched on my ribs, because the 'pressure?' is pushing against them. No issues with this anymore. I am making my first batch of egg shell calcium this week. I was fed soy formula as a baby too.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on March 05, 2012
at 07:05 PM

Have you had your vitamin D checked recently? Vitamin D council says you gotta supplement more than 5000IU just for maintenance.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on March 05, 2012
at 07:03 PM

Wow, you react to soy in eggs? That's hardcore :D! Now that I think of it, I could very well be coping with the same issue since I don't tolerate eggs either. What kind of allergic reaction do you get, Senneth? I was fed a lot of soy when I was very young due to lactose intolerance. Also, does calcium help you?

F384f37edfc8f17857714f6ec9d1267e

on October 21, 2011
at 10:54 PM

I have to take serious probiotics for the list of issues i have regarding my digestive system...one brand i highly recommend is the Renew Life. I take the Flora Smart 24 billion and it helps. I use to take the pearls but they dont have nearly the amount of strands as these do. many health food stores carry them or i've been getting them online.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on August 09, 2011
at 04:45 PM

Ya, a few months ago. It was very low - I had been supplementing 5000iu for about a year prior. I am still supplementing the same, but getting more sun. I plan on upping it as fall begins.

41dfb1a4fecb38d24075ff52f13ccb28

on August 04, 2011
at 06:36 AM

Well then, I definitely wish you good luck! I'll definitely be keeping tabs.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 04, 2011
at 01:28 AM

I've found the cultured butter to vastly improove mood. I wonder if this is due to the 'probiotic' properties...?

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on August 03, 2011
at 10:21 PM

Thanks -A at Grain Free Diet. I have a bunch of l-glutamine, but it doesn't do a thing for me either. I will have to look at those probiotics. Usually probiotics make me tired and extra bloated -but a recommended brand is always worth a close look. I hate say it, but I really hate my body enough at this point to try anything once, to cure it that is. (I am not going back on gluten). I guess I will find out soon enough how well an egg plus oj works. If you want to keep tabs, I am going to follow-up every couple of weeks.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on August 03, 2011
at 10:15 PM

No GERD, no heartburn or nausea. This is a tough nut to crack.

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on August 03, 2011
at 09:43 PM

Hmmm...I was looking for an 'acidity' issue. Tropical (high acid fruits) aren't particularly favored by people with your issues..unless you also have GERD issues...?

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on August 03, 2011
at 08:51 PM

I am bit distrusting of the IGG tests myself. For example I am deathly allergic to soy and yet there were no IGG antibodies on my test for it. I guess I am so indoctrinated by all the providers I have seen on cutting out foods that I am nervous to reintro some of the ones I have cut.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on August 03, 2011
at 08:48 PM

Apparently the sugar/carb in OJ will reduce the potential for inflammation caused by the egg. I am not fully satisfied with the explanation -but at this point I am almost willing to try anything -regardless of explanations.

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on August 03, 2011
at 07:55 PM

Do you know why OJ is being recommended?

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on August 03, 2011
at 07:18 PM

Also Personman..I should add that no probiotic substances of any kind (probiotic pills, homemade yogurt, live sauerkraut, kombochu,etc) has had an effect on me. Many people have great success with those and they are worth a try.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on August 03, 2011
at 05:00 PM

Hey Personman, sad to say I might be the wrong person to ask! I react poorly to eggs, and have a IGG positive reaction against them, yet I might still be trying to eat them! So basically I am all in a tangle. I never tried just egg yolk vs egg white. It was easier just to cut them out. You could try the doc I have been consulting with's advice and drink some OJ with the eggs. (I know juice!! I might be murdered). I haven't tried it yet. Gas is usually a symptom is improper digestion, so people will tell you take enzymes or probiotics.

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on August 08, 2011
at 10:53 PM

Getting my Vitamin D sufficient has helped with all my food sensitivities/intolerances. Have you had your D3 level checked lately?

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on August 09, 2011
at 04:45 PM

Ya, a few months ago. It was very low - I had been supplementing 5000iu for about a year prior. I am still supplementing the same, but getting more sun. I plan on upping it as fall begins.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on March 05, 2012
at 07:05 PM

Have you had your vitamin D checked recently? Vitamin D council says you gotta supplement more than 5000IU just for maintenance.

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41dfb1a4fecb38d24075ff52f13ccb28

on August 03, 2011
at 10:02 PM

Oy. I've totally been there. Actually, I'm still there. (I told the short version of the story in the comments of this post, but there's far more to it. Let's just say we have the same digestive system.)

If it were me, and I suppose in a way it sort of is, I don't hate myself enough to touch eggs, dairy or gluten and set off the craziness that would come. I like being upright instead of on the floor in the fetal position sobbing, KWIM?

Two things that I have found that are helping immensely:

  1. 2000mg MSM per day for inflammation (I've been using Jarrow powder, but just find one that is gluten free)
  2. Enzymatic Therapy IC Pearls (no affiliation, just a fan) I've been on more probiotics than I can think of, and I picked these up purely because I hit a sale and had a coupon so they were only $1.75. They've done the best out of any probiotics I've tried. Luckily I snagged 4 packages at the sale because I love these things!

Other than that, I do a lot of bone broths - particularly ones with chicken feet for the extra glucosamine, which is also good for the intestines, but large doses of L-Glutamine by itself does not too great things to me. And I also keep my diet simple to try to calm everything down. One thing I will mention... watch the mayo. For whatever reason I completely forgot that mayo contains eggs and set off a nice bout of inflammation putting some on a burger. Sneaky stuff those eggs.

Hope that helps!

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on August 03, 2011
at 10:21 PM

Thanks -A at Grain Free Diet. I have a bunch of l-glutamine, but it doesn't do a thing for me either. I will have to look at those probiotics. Usually probiotics make me tired and extra bloated -but a recommended brand is always worth a close look. I hate say it, but I really hate my body enough at this point to try anything once, to cure it that is. (I am not going back on gluten). I guess I will find out soon enough how well an egg plus oj works. If you want to keep tabs, I am going to follow-up every couple of weeks.

41dfb1a4fecb38d24075ff52f13ccb28

on August 04, 2011
at 06:36 AM

Well then, I definitely wish you good luck! I'll definitely be keeping tabs.

F384f37edfc8f17857714f6ec9d1267e

on October 21, 2011
at 10:54 PM

I have to take serious probiotics for the list of issues i have regarding my digestive system...one brand i highly recommend is the Renew Life. I take the Flora Smart 24 billion and it helps. I use to take the pearls but they dont have nearly the amount of strands as these do. many health food stores carry them or i've been getting them online.

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on August 03, 2011
at 08:28 PM

I am sorry you have spent so much with no sucess.

I can guess who you new provider is.

If all the things that you have tried before have not helped then what have you got to lose by trying something new?

Why not give it a go with an open mind and report back on the results.

It could be doubted that the IgG antibodies are a cause of your problems if not eating those foods has not improved your situation. The IgG test results may just be a result of your intestinal problems.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on August 03, 2011
at 08:51 PM

I am bit distrusting of the IGG tests myself. For example I am deathly allergic to soy and yet there were no IGG antibodies on my test for it. I guess I am so indoctrinated by all the providers I have seen on cutting out foods that I am nervous to reintro some of the ones I have cut.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 03, 2011
at 04:48 PM

Hi Senneth. Should I avoid egg whites? I don't know how to detect the symptoms of 'leaky gut' but every time I consume them they are causing flatulence. I am consuming approx. 12 per day as I follow the old bodybuilding style lifestyle. Cheese on the other hand has no effect. Also would probiotic substances assist(eg. cultured butter, raw meat)? Any advice would be great.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on August 03, 2011
at 05:00 PM

Hey Personman, sad to say I might be the wrong person to ask! I react poorly to eggs, and have a IGG positive reaction against them, yet I might still be trying to eat them! So basically I am all in a tangle. I never tried just egg yolk vs egg white. It was easier just to cut them out. You could try the doc I have been consulting with's advice and drink some OJ with the eggs. (I know juice!! I might be murdered). I haven't tried it yet. Gas is usually a symptom is improper digestion, so people will tell you take enzymes or probiotics.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on August 03, 2011
at 07:18 PM

Also Personman..I should add that no probiotic substances of any kind (probiotic pills, homemade yogurt, live sauerkraut, kombochu,etc) has had an effect on me. Many people have great success with those and they are worth a try.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78417)

on August 04, 2011
at 01:28 AM

I've found the cultured butter to vastly improove mood. I wonder if this is due to the 'probiotic' properties...?

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