So if someone has both i would like to ask which kind of food is the safest to eat and what to eat?
Also which supplements and remedies would help and relieve some symptoms? Already taking some of them and they help a lot.
If someone has some good links and information please post it here :)
Also what about phytates and oxalates and this kind of stuff?
No matter what i eat i get symptoms if not from all food but thats probably because of constipation also. (water retention,numbness,foggy,sleepy,dry skin,burning feeling thru body,eczema and some others)
I was like for almost a year only on spinach, brussel sprouts,greenbean and first half of the year on wild fish and still had symptoms.
Really not sure what are realy allergies and what arent since almost everything gives me some sort of symptoms. It is getting better but still want to know how to properly heal and fast as possible.
Are oxalates or phytates in food also causing this symptoms? How long does it take for a reaction to occur?
Can someone explain this a little bit more so i can calm down. Really not sure what to eat now and what helps and what now because some symptoms can be a good sign also (healing reactions)
So if you have some good information please post it here.
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on April 03, 2012
at 12:33 PM
GAPS is among the best ways to heal leaky gut - www.gaps.me - GAPS adds a "process" for healing that Paleo is missing (just skip the peanuts). But most need more than just diet to heal from the autoimmune diseases that result from leaky gut. These include vitamin D3 (critical for healing leaky-gut), boswellia & curcumin (great anti inflammatories) and LDN. (www.crohnsdad.com)
on April 03, 2012
at 12:19 PM
I feel for you!
I have leaky gut but not candida. I also have trouble eating foods due to allergies, imflamation, IBS, colitis...all of which I attribute to the leaky gut--8 years of misery. I also have tons of ever changing/evolving food allergies which make eating difficult and frustrating.
Have you done any allergy testing? I would recommend it, but, if you aren't eating the whole range of foods, they will not show up as allergic....meaning you need to eat everything and anything probably 2 wks before in order to get a clear test of all that might be bothering your system.
A year ago I went Primal and then have slowly eased into Paleo, it helped a lot but not enough. I have the opposite issues, I live on immodium. Unfortunately I figured out that rotating my foods was probably the best thing for me, and helped me from reacting to the things I like to eat, meaning try not to repeat them too often, keep them in rotation so you don't start reacting to them. There are also so many 'gut irritating' real foods that I like that I've learned I can't eat either. But I try to focus on what I can eat, which is still quite a bit more than you.
I just recently started the GAPS introduction protocol, I finally got fed up with being sick all the time, I'm on week 3 of a 30 day plan. The intro protocol is suppose to help 'heal' the gut and addresses candida issues as well, I figured I didn't have anything to loose by trying. I am already seeing some positive results, but I will say, weeks 1-2 were challenging but my digestive system has calmed down, now I'm slowly introducing foods and my digestion seems to be resetting. It will be longer than 30 days for me, probably more like 45-60 to get through it, then I plan on adapting the full GAPS diet following paleo principles (they are similar anyways it seems).
I do'nt know if you are familiar with GAPS but I'd definitely look into it, I'd be happy to send you some info that helped me decide and guided me. There are several great books out there worth reading up first. Definitely do your homework before, because once you start the intro you MUST be strict and stay on it through the end. ([email protected])
are you only eating the foods you listed above or other things?
on April 09, 2012
at 08:45 AM
I can sympathise with you totally. You sound exactly like me until two years ago. I didn't know which way to turn with my diet and to make it worse, all my kids were as bad as I was.- each day was spent stumbling from one bout of tummy pain or diarrhoea or behavioural problems with me feeling totally at a loss with how to fix myself and my kids and feeling like I had completely failed them. I tried GAPS for months with limited improvement and spent hundreds of dollars on probiotics with no effect. We ended up finding a great doctor who diagnosed us all with parasites called Blastocystis Hominis and another called Dientomoeba Fragilis as well as H. Pylori and Candida. quite common apparently but not recognized as an issue by the medical fraternity. We ended up being treated with Chinese herbs and antibiotics ( because I was at my wits end) and while we don't have full digestive strength back yet, I can say that we can finally tolerate all fully paleo foods and are constantly improving. It could be worth investigating the parasite issue as any dietary intervention may show much faster results.
on April 09, 2012
at 07:10 AM
hey natureman!i am new to this discussion but i would just like to say that i have exactly the same symptoms and problems as you describe. i have both leaky gut and systemic candida and have chronic food intolerances which are now so bad i react to every single thing that i eat. i too get the itching burning skin sensation you described all over my body plus terrible headaches. it is a nightmare. it was in desperation when i was doing more research to try and find a cure that i came upon this discussion. i had never heard of the GAPS diet but looked it up and decided that since i was already on a really strict candida diet it would be easy to adapt to it. what i have found is that the meat/veges broths on the GAPS diet i can tolerate much better than anything else i have been eating. i still get headaches when i eat, but very little itching. which is something. i have stopped all supplements as well as i react to them all. as regards whether to use organic or not, i use organic chicken because i can source it easily at present but i use non-organic red meat. i don't react to the latter but non-organic chickens i definitely react to so avoid them.
interested to hear if you have made any progress and what else you have found that has helped you. i feel we are both in the same boat.
on April 04, 2012
at 08:36 PM
I had the same problem for years. If I knew then, what I know now, I would have been far more brutal with eliminating foods. I would have eliminated all starch, fruit and virtually all veg except for a few that I was sure that I was ok with.
I would have eaten far more meat stock, animal fat and organs.