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Gone paleo for 5-month diarrhea bout and it's worse

Commented on March 01, 2014
Created February 28, 2014 at 5:25 AM

I've been dealing with a sudden onset diarrhea bout for 5 months after eating at a dirty college burrito joint. Seriously haven't been the same since. Paleo helped me tremendously the first 1.5 weeks but now the diarrhea is back with a vengeance. I'm so discouraged! I'm trying so hard and it's just getting worse! Help!

47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

(35)

on March 01, 2014
at 06:46 PM

Also be patient with the antibiotics since we can't suggest something better yet. Monolaurin is suggestes instead of rifaximine for SIBO by Chris Kresser for example but your situation is probably somewhat different or more complex.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41787)

on March 01, 2014
at 05:40 PM

Tell him he's an idiot and go back to the doctor for another look! 5+ months of diarrhea ain't normal!

47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

(35)

on March 01, 2014
at 03:21 PM

You are allergic to dairy but cheated paleo with dairy cheese ?

As Drael pointed out, it may be a bacterial overgrowth that responded to the foods.

Some info about SIBO:

http://www.eat-real-food-paleodietitian.com/paleo-diet-and-SIBO.html

http://www.thepaleomom.com/2012/07/modifying-paleo-small-intestinal.html

http://www.thepaleomom.com/2012/04/fruit-and-starchy-vegetables-with-small.html

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on March 01, 2014
at 03:01 PM

Can you explain more on this? Never heard of Sibo and i've done a lot of research. I'm allergic to dairy but am about to start on water kefir. I agree that a more comprehensive stool should be re-done. Just ask my gastro? Who to read and respond appropriately?

8b9c2dcd3dfc929a0428d3d6dac4918e

(70)

on March 01, 2014
at 06:32 AM

That amount of probiotics would do me in. If your system is that effected by a few carbs, i would defo look at carb restriction & fodmaps, live on a really restricted diet until it settles down a bit. Bone broth BTW, will fix the "burning", heal the gut lining. Doesn't do anything for bacteria, but if you are where you sound like you are, a few bone broth based stews and soups could be the business.

8b9c2dcd3dfc929a0428d3d6dac4918e

(70)

on March 01, 2014
at 06:28 AM

Bloods? Re-do the stool? get comprehensive testing if you go again. As for your diareahha, try getting in regular probiotics. Daily yogurt or kefir might be the trick. Clearly its your gut bacteria balance, if paleo breifly helped. You might also look at fodmaps, and keeping fiber and carbs in check. IBS is just SIBO caused by infection weaking the cleansing waves. Dr pimental (sp) has done loads of study on it. GPs don't really know anything about curing gut problems & they are usually dismissive & unhelpful (so if you use them, make it more of a pain for them not to be helpful)

8b9c2dcd3dfc929a0428d3d6dac4918e

(70)

on March 01, 2014
at 06:24 AM

Yes you do!

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on March 01, 2014
at 04:24 AM

I added Chia it my diet... And after a few days, I was having diarrhea, the salad came out undigested. It was the only change in my diet. Here was where I started my search. http://paleohacks.com/questions/128058/allergic-reaction-to-chia-seeds.html.

It took a few weeks once I stopped eating it to get back to almost normal. Just wondered if it might be part of the problem.

A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 02:46 AM

I'm wondering the same thing

A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 02:45 AM

Oh, and this all started in sept '13 and I didn't get preg until end of nov. '13 so it's not the pregnancy making me sick.

A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 02:44 AM

See below, no other symptoms except migraines but I think they are pregnancy related.

A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 02:43 AM

Infection never cleared up. I'm pregnant now so not sure how the hormone test would work?

A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 02:42 AM

No fish oil right now. Had some cod liver oil but would seem to get headaches whenever I took it

A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 02:41 AM

I had some last week! Made some yummy puddings, but none this week. Why?

A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 02:41 AM

I have been on probiotics from the get go. Did some intense rounds and now on 10 billion/day. No noticeable difference but will check those out.

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(26197)

on March 01, 2014
at 02:40 AM

where is that question leading?

A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 02:40 AM

You are probably right! My husband is the one who is sold they won't help

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A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 02:39 AM

Thanks all. I realize that I didn't give much detail in my initial message (late night on phone). I saw docs in beginning and nothing showed on stool tests. A few weeks later, I found out I was pregnant. I started paleo that week and made it 14 days until morning sickness hit. I couldn't stand the sight of meat or veggies for the next month, even though I had started feeling well on the diet. I tried various alternatives, including calcium with each meal, apple cider vinegar, Imodium, glucosamine(?), intense probiotics (still on 10 billion/day), kombucha, and now acupuncture. Probably leaving some things out. As soon as morning sickness passed, I got back on paleo (2 weeks ago). Everything was fine until I cheated one night at a party and had some cheese and popcorn and some potato chips the following day. It's been 5 days and my system is a mess. I don't think colonoscopy will show anything and since I'm pregnant, I'm not sure it's the safest route. 17 weeks preg FYI

8b9c2dcd3dfc929a0428d3d6dac4918e

(70)

on March 01, 2014
at 06:32 AM

That amount of probiotics would do me in. If your system is that effected by a few carbs, i would defo look at carb restriction & fodmaps, live on a really restricted diet until it settles down a bit. Bone broth BTW, will fix the "burning", heal the gut lining. Doesn't do anything for bacteria, but if you are where you sound like you are, a few bone broth based stews and soups could be the business.

A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 02:45 AM

Oh, and this all started in sept '13 and I didn't get preg until end of nov. '13 so it's not the pregnancy making me sick.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41787)

on February 28, 2014
at 11:22 PM

First, doctor. Then, time. 5 months though… time to visit the doctor again!

A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 02:40 AM

You are probably right! My husband is the one who is sold they won't help

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on February 28, 2014
at 06:26 PM

Have you tried probiotics? They worked good for me when I was in Mexico City. I get them from Kirkman Labs. They have really good quality products. The Super Pro Bio are very strong: http://kirkmanlabs.com/ProductKirkman/190/1/SuperPro-Bioand75Billion-Bio-MaxSeries-Hypoallergenic/

These work well too: http://kirkmanlabs.com/ProductKirkman/186/1/Pro-BioGoldand-Hypoallergenic/

A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 02:41 AM

I have been on probiotics from the get go. Did some intense rounds and now on 10 billion/day. No noticeable difference but will check those out.

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Medium avatar

on February 28, 2014
at 06:04 PM

Are you eating any Chia seeds?

A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 02:41 AM

I had some last week! Made some yummy puddings, but none this week. Why?

A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 02:46 AM

I'm wondering the same thing

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26197)

on March 01, 2014
at 02:40 AM

where is that question leading?

Medium avatar

(0)

on March 01, 2014
at 04:24 AM

I added Chia it my diet... And after a few days, I was having diarrhea, the salad came out undigested. It was the only change in my diet. Here was where I started my search. http://paleohacks.com/questions/128058/allergic-reaction-to-chia-seeds.html.

It took a few weeks once I stopped eating it to get back to almost normal. Just wondered if it might be part of the problem.

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on February 28, 2014
at 04:58 PM

Are you taking high-dose fish oil? I just read in the "omega rx zone" by Barry Sears, that too many "good" eicosanoids can cause diarrhea. Basically, the idea is to look at energy, stools, hair and many other health status data to give you a clue about your hormonal situation. I know you said this started with an infection, but I just thought I'd throw this idea in the mix in case it could be a possible factor for you, because the infection cleared up yes? And then later returned, so could be unrelated?

A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 02:43 AM

Infection never cleared up. I'm pregnant now so not sure how the hormone test would work?

A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 02:42 AM

No fish oil right now. Had some cod liver oil but would seem to get headaches whenever I took it

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A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on February 28, 2014
at 04:21 PM

I went to the doctor in the beginning. Stools came back neg but they put me on flagyl and two rounds of cipro with no change:( next step is colonoscopy but I fear we'll spend the money to be given an ibs diagnosis.

A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 03:01 PM

Can you explain more on this? Never heard of Sibo and i've done a lot of research. I'm allergic to dairy but am about to start on water kefir. I agree that a more comprehensive stool should be re-done. Just ask my gastro? Who to read and respond appropriately?

8b9c2dcd3dfc929a0428d3d6dac4918e

(70)

on March 01, 2014
at 06:28 AM

Bloods? Re-do the stool? get comprehensive testing if you go again. As for your diareahha, try getting in regular probiotics. Daily yogurt or kefir might be the trick. Clearly its your gut bacteria balance, if paleo breifly helped. You might also look at fodmaps, and keeping fiber and carbs in check. IBS is just SIBO caused by infection weaking the cleansing waves. Dr pimental (sp) has done loads of study on it. GPs don't really know anything about curing gut problems & they are usually dismissive & unhelpful (so if you use them, make it more of a pain for them not to be helpful)

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47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

(35)

on February 28, 2014
at 08:28 AM

You need to get checked for infections, probably some stool analysis.

8b9c2dcd3dfc929a0428d3d6dac4918e

(70)

on March 01, 2014
at 06:24 AM

Yes you do!

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on February 28, 2014
at 06:01 AM

Have you been to the doctor? Do you have other symptoms, such as dehydration, fatigue?

A6b6460e18cc5069fd53e580eaf453c4

on March 01, 2014
at 02:44 AM

See below, no other symptoms except migraines but I think they are pregnancy related.

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