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Jimmy moores new book on Cholesterol?

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Created June 07, 2013 at 6:03 AM

Is anyone going to actually take this guys advice on cholesterol? The same man who has nightmarish cholesterol which indicates high risk by anyone's standards?

http://www.amazon.com/Cholesterol-Clarity-What-Wrong-Numbers/dp/1936608383

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17567 · September 18, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Nobody gives even a single nano gram of buffalo droppings about your gossipy drama, take it elsewhere, like your own attack-troll-blog. If you want to ask about something paleo related, or health related, fine, we'll happily accommodate. This is paleohacks, not gossiphacks.

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578 · September 18, 2013 at 5:54 AM

One of them hasn't even heard of LDL-P. I'll let you guess who that one is. He's actually one of the Ph.Ds. And about a half of them cannot give an intelligent answer about ApoE4 or even know what that is. I wouldn't expect my PCP to have a clue about ApoE4. GPs just don't know about such things. They are basically family physicians, who barely know what to do when you have a stomach flu. That's why I kept saying Jimmy knows a lot. I'm not being sarcastic. The inmate really is running the asylum.

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578 · September 18, 2013 at 5:47 AM

Check out some of these interviews. These guys apparently sought to be on Jimmy's show. Some of these have a small family practice and need to build a client base. They happen to agree 100% with Paleo or low-carbing. But their grasp of cholesterol is less than stellar and their clinical pearls amount to: trigs, the lower the better; HDL, the higher the better. Jimmy actually has to lead them on because they run out of things to say.

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10199 · September 17, 2013 at 4:04 PM

People forget just how important the big guy is.

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10199 · September 17, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Thanks for reading and reviewing it. Too bad he didn't go beyond the usual suspects. Without that it's just another exercise in confirmation bias.

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578 · September 17, 2013 at 5:36 AM

Jimbo knows his stuff! Respect granted! But I'm not so sure whether the experts he's had on can telll HDL from LDL, seriously.

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578 · June 08, 2013 at 4:27 AM

It's inflammation that triggers heart disease. And inflammation isn't that easy to quantify, despite CRP and ESR. That's why heart disease if multifactorial. LDL-P is in vogue now but even that' isn't all that controlling. The old TC/HDL and Trigs/HDL are still the best measures.

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578 · June 08, 2013 at 4:24 AM

Despite his high LDL, TC and LDL-P, Jimmy's coronary calcium score was nil, no real atherosclerosis. If you blindly believe in LDL, TC and LDL-P, you're bound to be disappointed. There are very healthy people with very high LDLs on VLC diets. Why? There are other factors that impact yoru CV health: your endothelial wall, for example. Jimmy probably has excellent homocysteine, LP(a), fibrinogen, and low inflammation, as shown in his low Trigs and low Trigs / HDL.

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1031 · June 07, 2013 at 10:19 AM

It looks like he's attempting a paradigm shift, it'll be interesting to see that play out. He's a living experiment and not afraid to give things a try so hard to say whether he's delusional or not.

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897 · June 07, 2013 at 8:03 AM

I know exactly what he's trying to "challenge" and it's the same old HDL/trigs/ratios/particle size distraction. The man has an LDL of 280 and an Ldl-p of over 3000. If anyone considers that to be heart healthy and low risk for atherosclerosis then they're living with their head in the sand.

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1031 · June 07, 2013 at 7:27 AM

Not sure about the "by anyone's standards". That could well be what Jimmy is attempting to challenge with his book.

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578 · June 08, 2013 at 4:34 AM

The question isn't whether Jimmy is qualified. He isn't. He's no medical doctor. But you don't have to be. Unlike those prior books on cholesterol, Jimmy has the chance to put it all together from many perspectives. On his show, he's had cholesterol skeptics (who don't at all believe in cholesterol), LDL-P fanatics, inflammation proponents, and those who actually believe saturated fat is dangerous (when combined with carbs). He's been exposed to many viewpoints and isn't going to stick to one worldview in writing a book. That's why his book will be different and is at least worth examining.

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4400 · June 07, 2013 at 3:36 PM

I would be just as likely to take advise from a person who was 40% body fat and dropped to 20% as I would somebody who went from 12% to 9%. I would learn from a piano teacher who never played in Carnegie Hall. Some of the best baseball coaches never could play even in the minor leagues. We all have different genetic and environmental endowments. The question isn't whether Jimmy has sterling numbers, and it's not whether he has a PhD. The question is whether he knows his stuff and can communicate it. I'll read reviews and see, based on those criteria, whether the reviewers think the book is worthwhile.

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43 · September 17, 2013 at 7:40 PM

paul chek isn't a doctor, yet he's one of the smartest people on the planet (not exaggerating at ALL here) when it comes to health, so we shouldn't listen to him? Plus cholesterol numbers are completely useless when you get general numbers. Jimmy has experience, and he's going to write an amazing book that everyone should read because he does have different perspectives.

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578 · September 18, 2013 at 5:54 AM

One of them hasn't even heard of LDL-P. I'll let you guess who that one is. He's actually one of the Ph.Ds. And about a half of them cannot give an intelligent answer about ApoE4 or even know what that is. I wouldn't expect my PCP to have a clue about ApoE4. GPs just don't know about such things. They are basically family physicians, who barely know what to do when you have a stomach flu. That's why I kept saying Jimmy knows a lot. I'm not being sarcastic. The inmate really is running the asylum.

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578 · September 18, 2013 at 5:47 AM

Check out some of these interviews. These guys apparently sought to be on Jimmy's show. Some of these have a small family practice and need to build a client base. They happen to agree 100% with Paleo or low-carbing. But their grasp of cholesterol is less than stellar and their clinical pearls amount to: trigs, the lower the better; HDL, the higher the better. Jimmy actually has to lead them on because they run out of things to say.

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578 · September 17, 2013 at 1:54 AM

I was actually excited about this book but I didn't realize Jimmy was rehashing his past interviews and sticking to one worldview. The only so called cardiologist he interviewed is Dr. Davis, I believe, of gluten fame.

There are some big names there but their expertise is not lipidology. Drs. Lustig and Westman are obesity experts. I was thinking maybe he was gonna score someone like Dr. Mozafferian. I should have known better. Mark Sisson is an entrepreneur, not a lipidologist. Gary Taubes is well, er Gary Taubes. Dr. David Diamond is a neurology professor who taught himself lipidology and what he learned is basically straight from Anthony Colpo; his real expertise is "leaning behavior." Although I respect Paul Jaminet's thoughts on nutrition, he's not a cholesterol expert. Dr. Ron Ehrlich s a holistic dentist. Uffe Ravnskov is a flat-earther who believes you can't have too high a cholesterol. The rest are obscure family physicians and GPs with a small practice who became low-carb or Paleo converts (perhaps to enhance their profile and develop a practice niche). I don't mean this in a demeaning way, but I thought Jimmy was way more ambitious than this.

What I learned from these interviews is that Jimmy actually knows more about cholesterol than some of these experts. I'm not kidding. Jimmy is a bona fide expert and some of these so called experts, I'm not so sure, are.

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10199 · September 17, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Thanks for reading and reviewing it. Too bad he didn't go beyond the usual suspects. Without that it's just another exercise in confirmation bias.

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0 · September 16, 2013 at 11:52 PM

Unrelated question, perhaps, but what happened to everyone's favorite trust-fund hipster, Melissa? Word on the streets is that Chris un-dumped her. Hmmm... ;)

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17567 · September 18, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Nobody gives even a single nano gram of buffalo droppings about your gossipy drama, take it elsewhere, like your own attack-troll-blog. If you want to ask about something paleo related, or health related, fine, we'll happily accommodate. This is paleohacks, not gossiphacks.

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0 · September 16, 2013 at 11:50 PM

Respect, bro. Jimbo INVENTED Paleo. Sheesh. Bet ya didn't know that.

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578 · September 17, 2013 at 5:36 AM

Jimbo knows his stuff! Respect granted! But I'm not so sure whether the experts he's had on can telll HDL from LDL, seriously.

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10199 · September 17, 2013 at 4:04 PM

People forget just how important the big guy is.

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103 · June 07, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Jimmy's likely a great guy and I'm all for not judging people's viewpoints by their degrees, but hasn't the guy interviewed on his podcast at least three people who know far more than he does about this topic? Also, I don't like how he took off from his podcast to do the book. I like listening in when I can stand being told that potatoes are not a real food and that raw honey is going to kill me.

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