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What causes recurring yeast overgrowth?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 04, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Hi I have a question, so when I take a natural anti-fungal such as raw garlic, my symptoms quickly dissipate. Later though, the symptoms return after a meal such as chicken and Brussels sprouts. I consume a few more cloves of raw garlic, symptoms once again pretty much completely go away. So in essence, this is reoccurring fungal (presumably yeast) overgrowth.

So the question becomes: What causes reccurring yeast overgrowth?

Thank you!

My symptoms:

  • Itchy rashes, once incredibly severe! (they were so severely itchy all over my arms, hands, legs, and feet that I itched until I bled) Though, once I dramatically reduced the amount of sugar in my diet I saw tremendous improvement! They are now limited to my fingers, toes and outer ear.
  • Itchy ear canals
  • Itchy anal canal
  • Anxiety (much much better after removing dairy, nuts, seeds, eggs and nightshades from my diet)
  • Insomnia unless I take supplements
  • Frequent belching, bloating and overeating without introducing stomach acid-stimulants (such as apple cider vinegar and betaine HCL) and enzymes
  • Constipation (slowed bowel transit time and led to a frequent rocky stool)
  • Allergies (gone once I began autoimmune protocol)

These symptoms began 5 years ago after a course of antibiotics (3 months of antibiotics for acne!!!).

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on September 09, 2013
at 06:46 AM

If it worked, you would have been able to go back to eating carbohydrate symptom-free. I would think that in going low carb you cut out a lot of food containing sugar in the process which obviously reduces candida overgrowth symptoms. I am looking into something besides "candida overgrowth" as an actual diagnosis for this... I think myself and countless others may confuse candida with a histamine reaction. I am looking into this further, but as I understand so far various foods including certain meats, contribute to this reaction.

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on September 06, 2013
at 09:13 PM

Then explain why people with candida have so much success on low carb! I used to have raging candida...all the symptoms you've ever heard of. I thought I was dying. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia (it obviously wasn't), psoriasis, and a few other things. But rather than give up, I went VLC then paleo. Funny how my symptoms are gone, but when I eat a bunch of carbs, they all come back. I pretty much LIVE in ketosis, so if your ill conceived idea was true, I would still have all the symptoms. But feel free to do whatever you want. It obviously isn't WORKING, but hey, it's a free country! =)

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on September 06, 2013
at 02:38 AM

It's up to your own comfort level in using pharmaceutical drugs. It is not my personal preference. Are you also taking high-strength probiotics? I didn't see anything in your post about that. You should do both anti-fungals (killing bad bacteria) and probiotics (increasing good bacteria).

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

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on September 05, 2013
at 10:59 PM

No fluoride in my tap water, I do not consume any prepared drinks or canned foods, my life is practically stress free, and both ketones and carbs feed candida so cutting carbs is pointless.

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

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on September 05, 2013
at 10:57 PM

Thanks for the consideration, but I would be surprised if I had either deficiency considering my diet including lots of offal, bone broth, and a variety of veggies. Additionally, I do take about 1,200% vit C supplemented just to be on the safe side.

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

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on September 05, 2013
at 03:56 PM

I eat coconut oil on a daily basis in meals. Grapefruit seed extract has never worked for me. Im not sure about the clove oil doing much work. Is it an acceptable choice to acquire antifungals from a general practioner?

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

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on September 05, 2013
at 07:28 AM

Your advice is sound! It is difficult for me to make all of those accommodations, however. Have you had success in keeping your candida in check for good or merely quelling it's existence? Avoiding carbs seems to be the hardest part, as vegetables are my BFF! However, some experts contend that candida can also feed off of ketones so restricting carbohydrates may not be effective. Additionally, carbohydrate from soluble sources such as apples, blueberries, plantains, bananas and sweet potatoes seems to feed the good bacteria while promoting satiety in preventing overconsumption of sugary food.

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

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on September 05, 2013
at 07:06 AM

I will edit my post to add them :)

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

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on September 05, 2013
at 07:04 AM

That's exactly what I was thinking! However, I am so far not having any luck with probiotics. I drank Kefir a while ago and also ate fermented foods without any luck. However, consuming raw garlic is new for me and nothing has been as potent in killing yeast in anything that I have yet to take. I am currently take PB 8 but not having any lucky in quelling the overgrowth as they continue to return.

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on September 05, 2013
at 03:01 AM

Hi Owen, I'm interested in what your symptoms are...?

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366c23d69eadce094a2b22299c58a424

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on September 05, 2013
at 08:04 PM

The standard answer is to avoid carbs, but I had the opposite experience -- going very low carb is what started my yeast problem to begin with. There is some information about that on the Perfect Health Diet blog.

Magnesium and vitamin C deficiencies can also cause some of the symptoms you're reporting.

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

(134)

on September 05, 2013
at 10:57 PM

Thanks for the consideration, but I would be surprised if I had either deficiency considering my diet including lots of offal, bone broth, and a variety of veggies. Additionally, I do take about 1,200% vit C supplemented just to be on the safe side.

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on September 05, 2013
at 03:24 AM

Try avoiding carbohidrates for a few days, and only consuming a small amount to keep your glucose at a reasonable level. Raw vegetables are the best. Beware: Once your candida is starving, your cravings are only going to increase. I have added 1 tsp of organic, virgin coconut oil before breakfast and before bedtime. It has helped me get rid of not only candida overgrowth, but unwanted bacteria. Bowel movements become more frequent and softer. It helps me by reducing cravings, and I have not had gastritis in a while since I started taking it. It has also worked wonders on my skin burn (touched an oven) and on my son's mosquito bites. Hope it helps!!

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

(134)

on September 05, 2013
at 07:28 AM

Your advice is sound! It is difficult for me to make all of those accommodations, however. Have you had success in keeping your candida in check for good or merely quelling it's existence? Avoiding carbs seems to be the hardest part, as vegetables are my BFF! However, some experts contend that candida can also feed off of ketones so restricting carbohydrates may not be effective. Additionally, carbohydrate from soluble sources such as apples, blueberries, plantains, bananas and sweet potatoes seems to feed the good bacteria while promoting satiety in preventing overconsumption of sugary food.

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on September 05, 2013
at 01:26 AM

Yeast is everywhere. Even someone who doesn't get yeast infections has a certain amount. The reason most people don't get infections is because other bacteria they have controls the yeast. If your infection is recurring after killing it with garlic, perhaps the garlic has properties that kill the yeast, but once the garlic is through it's still the case that the state of your gut flora is that yeast has a really easy time proliferating. Perhaps keep controlling it with garlic, but also introducing more fermented food and probiotics in order to make your gut flora resistant to this infection recurring, rather than just killing it without addressing the reason why it happens in the first place.

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

(134)

on September 05, 2013
at 07:04 AM

That's exactly what I was thinking! However, I am so far not having any luck with probiotics. I drank Kefir a while ago and also ate fermented foods without any luck. However, consuming raw garlic is new for me and nothing has been as potent in killing yeast in anything that I have yet to take. I am currently take PB 8 but not having any lucky in quelling the overgrowth as they continue to return.

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Fa07d8dc856fe17be86463fbd46b28a4

on September 05, 2013
at 07:00 PM

There are a lot of things that can cause candida to overgrow, even the fluoride in tap water and all the canned foods/prepared drinks one might consume. Also, carbs feed candida as does stress.

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

(134)

on September 05, 2013
at 10:59 PM

No fluoride in my tap water, I do not consume any prepared drinks or canned foods, my life is practically stress free, and both ketones and carbs feed candida so cutting carbs is pointless.

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

(134)

on September 09, 2013
at 06:46 AM

If it worked, you would have been able to go back to eating carbohydrate symptom-free. I would think that in going low carb you cut out a lot of food containing sugar in the process which obviously reduces candida overgrowth symptoms. I am looking into something besides "candida overgrowth" as an actual diagnosis for this... I think myself and countless others may confuse candida with a histamine reaction. I am looking into this further, but as I understand so far various foods including certain meats, contribute to this reaction.

Fa07d8dc856fe17be86463fbd46b28a4

on September 06, 2013
at 09:13 PM

Then explain why people with candida have so much success on low carb! I used to have raging candida...all the symptoms you've ever heard of. I thought I was dying. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia (it obviously wasn't), psoriasis, and a few other things. But rather than give up, I went VLC then paleo. Funny how my symptoms are gone, but when I eat a bunch of carbs, they all come back. I pretty much LIVE in ketosis, so if your ill conceived idea was true, I would still have all the symptoms. But feel free to do whatever you want. It obviously isn't WORKING, but hey, it's a free country! =)

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on September 05, 2013
at 08:00 AM

This is the protocol that worked for me: - Grapefruit seed extract - 3 x 2 caps a day (bought from iherb) - Virgin coconut oil - 1 tbsp a day (ingest) - clove essential oil - diffuse and apply to soles of feet daily

Diet-wise, I did not make significant changes (this was during my pre-paleo days) except to cut out beer, sweets and processed food.

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

(134)

on September 05, 2013
at 03:56 PM

I eat coconut oil on a daily basis in meals. Grapefruit seed extract has never worked for me. Im not sure about the clove oil doing much work. Is it an acceptable choice to acquire antifungals from a general practioner?

Acf47829cddf3c2e538a728862734d8a

(30)

on September 06, 2013
at 02:38 AM

It's up to your own comfort level in using pharmaceutical drugs. It is not my personal preference. Are you also taking high-strength probiotics? I didn't see anything in your post about that. You should do both anti-fungals (killing bad bacteria) and probiotics (increasing good bacteria).

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