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Giving up dairy - a good replacement for butter?

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Created November 19, 2010 at 5:44 PM

I'm doing the Whole30, which includes going 30 days without any dairy, even butter and cream. Currently I'm using coconut oil and extra virgin olive oil as added fats, but those don't go so well with some dishes, for example fried liver and sauerkraut. Is there any kind of fat that would have a milder taste than olive/coconut oil and be healthy, dairy-free, and convenient to use?

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on February 14, 2011
at 04:46 PM

be careful not to get the storebrand Hydrogenated Lard. Clean Lard is important.

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on November 22, 2010
at 01:45 AM

Well then, we are agreed! Lets' just agree to agree, shall we?

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on November 20, 2010
at 12:28 PM

Avocado Oil, Omega 6 content (per 100g) - 12531mg. I wouldn't get too friendly with it.

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on November 19, 2010
at 09:14 PM

I'd go with butter over the other two. Yes, it breaks whole 30, but if you clarify its basically just animal fat. The other two are higher in omega 6. And I would not cook with either of them because of that.

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on November 19, 2010
at 06:50 PM

Let me correct myself. I think it has a mild porky taste on it's own, but when cooking with it the other ingredients overpower the taste and make it a neutral-tasting fat in the end dish.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

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on November 19, 2010
at 06:36 PM

Many people used to have lard on hand for such things but then the govt told us that those were horrible unhealthy foods.. :-(

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

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on November 19, 2010
at 06:34 PM

Yeah, lard has a slight taste, but seems to go well with most everything, perhaps because bacon goes well with most things. But make sure you buy the natural unprocessed lard, not that garbage in the tubs that has been hydrogenated.

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on November 19, 2010
at 06:24 PM

Thanks for the quick answers everyone! I think I'll go looking for avocado oil or maybe lard. The convenience issue is a big one, since I don't have a freezer or even a real kitchen (I live in a dorm room with just a fridge, a cooking plate and a microwave). And no Whole Foods either, they haven't expanded to Finland yet...

F3951b3141a6ab7036b33e70b4bfad71

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on November 19, 2010
at 06:18 PM

After completing the Whole 30, organic, pastured clarified butter or ghee is totally approved. The Whole 30 is just 30 days to eat super clean and reset your gut so you can add things back and make sure you are not sensitive to them.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on November 19, 2010
at 06:11 PM

Lard has a very light, bacony taste to me. But it should work well with liver.

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on November 19, 2010
at 06:10 PM

It just seems traditional to me to fry liver in bacon drippings so there must be a reason to not do it that way. Then again I rarely see jars of bacon drippings in kitchens that don't belong to family :)

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on November 19, 2010
at 06:07 PM

it's ok with me!

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on November 19, 2010
at 05:55 PM

rendered duck fat can be found at whole foods where i live and has a pretty mild taste

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Ef9f83cb4e1826261a44c173f733789e

on November 19, 2010
at 05:58 PM

Lard, which should not have a taste.

Ef9f83cb4e1826261a44c173f733789e

(13635)

on November 19, 2010
at 06:50 PM

Let me correct myself. I think it has a mild porky taste on it's own, but when cooking with it the other ingredients overpower the taste and make it a neutral-tasting fat in the end dish.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on November 19, 2010
at 06:34 PM

Yeah, lard has a slight taste, but seems to go well with most everything, perhaps because bacon goes well with most things. But make sure you buy the natural unprocessed lard, not that garbage in the tubs that has been hydrogenated.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on November 22, 2010
at 01:45 AM

Well then, we are agreed! Lets' just agree to agree, shall we?

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on November 19, 2010
at 06:11 PM

Lard has a very light, bacony taste to me. But it should work well with liver.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22923)

on February 14, 2011
at 04:46 PM

be careful not to get the storebrand Hydrogenated Lard. Clean Lard is important.

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on November 19, 2010
at 08:43 PM

GHEE!

(grass-fed) Ghee is given the 'this is good' nod at http://whole9life.com/2010/11/butter/ whole9 but is discouraged during the whole30 reset rush.

I also adore coconut oil (organic) and Organic Palm Oil from Tropical Traditions.

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on November 19, 2010
at 06:01 PM

life without butter or ghee just aint worth living

F3951b3141a6ab7036b33e70b4bfad71

(269)

on November 19, 2010
at 06:18 PM

After completing the Whole 30, organic, pastured clarified butter or ghee is totally approved. The Whole 30 is just 30 days to eat super clean and reset your gut so you can add things back and make sure you are not sensitive to them.

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976844bb16c0ab60ca2632aa5df149f8

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on November 19, 2010
at 06:10 PM

Nitrite free bacon fat for me too!!

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1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

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on November 19, 2010
at 06:04 PM

I tend to use bacon drippings for that sort of thing, is there a reason why that is not ok?

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on November 19, 2010
at 06:36 PM

Many people used to have lard on hand for such things but then the govt told us that those were horrible unhealthy foods.. :-(

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on November 19, 2010
at 06:10 PM

It just seems traditional to me to fry liver in bacon drippings so there must be a reason to not do it that way. Then again I rarely see jars of bacon drippings in kitchens that don't belong to family :)

691f120a3e7a1a036845d105d86c99a3

(3641)

on November 19, 2010
at 06:07 PM

it's ok with me!

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on November 19, 2010
at 06:00 PM

Coconut milk is a great thing to cook with for sautees. It has a pretty mild flavor, and will take on the flavor of whatever you're cooking it with. I love cooking chopped up chicken, pork blade steak, or ground beef with a bunch of veggies and coconut milk. The coconut milk makes a great sauce to dip stuff in! Delicious!

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on November 20, 2010
at 06:45 AM

Look for kidney fat -- it's pretty much all saturated (and thus great for cooking).

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on November 20, 2010
at 06:21 AM

My choice of coconut oil is Nutiva available from Amazon. But if I want a no taste saturated fat oil, I use Medium Chain Triglyceride Oil from Now Brands (MCT Oil) It also remains a liquid down to 35 degrees F...unlike coconut oil that goes to a liquid at 76 degrees F. It is 100% saturated fat. http://www.swansonvitamins.com/NWF331/ItemDetail?n=0

Regarding lard...in your market there is a lard on the shelves... brand name Sno Cap, I think. It is a hydrogenated fat that is not what one wants. You only want fat straight from the fat of a hog...either rendered or unrendered....with no hydrogen molecule attached to the fat molecule to stabilize it.

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F3951b3141a6ab7036b33e70b4bfad71

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on November 19, 2010
at 06:16 PM

In my whole 30 class Melissa and Dallas recommended Avocado Oil and it is great! We have been doing the Whole 30 for twenty days or so and my wife, who is very picky and does not like Coconut Oil has totally approved of everything that I have prepared in Avocado Oil. It is a little pricey, but it can be used for high heat and it is extremely mild, almost no taste at all.

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on December 13, 2011
at 11:07 PM

You can make your own tallow fairly easily. Get ahold of some grass fed beef fat and render it at a low heat.

Stuff is delicious and the Omega-3:6 fat ratio is, I believe, near 1:2. Not bad at all.

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on December 13, 2011
at 10:39 PM

I found this stuff recently at whole foods and really like the flavor.

http://www.earthbalancenatural.com/#/products/organic/

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6838bde88ccf30a27bdffe055ad2175e

on December 13, 2011
at 09:34 PM

So if a recipe calls for butter then, avocado oil is a decent substitute? Im looking to cook some pheasant in a crock pot and the closest recipe that I can find that works with the 30 day challenge calls for butter. Just wanted to make sure before I ruin my bird!

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on April 25, 2011
at 11:56 PM

Oh, I'm loving coconut milk, cream, and oil, the milk and cream are a great milk substitute, and the oil can be cooked with. :)

Good luck!

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on February 14, 2011
at 04:36 PM

I love virgin coconut oil - it was instrumental in helping me survive a restricted diet resulting from a bunch of digestive disorders. It regulated my whacked out blood sugar and was supportive in the healing process. I am a believer! There is one butter substitute on the market that features virgin coconut oil as the first ingredient - “Melt” is the only butter substitute I eat – it’s really rich and creamy, organic with a great oil blend, and doesn’t have artificial colors, weird chemicals, or garbage oils. It’s the real deal for great taste and optimal nutrition in dietary fat and it works quite well for cooking and baking - one for one for butter. You can check them out at www.meltbutteryspread.com. It does have a small amount of butter in it, but its all organic.

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on November 20, 2010
at 11:34 AM

+1 for a high quality extra vergine coconut fat. i use it all the time for everything, and it smells ans tastes DELICIOUS. however, if you don't like the coconut smell/taste, you can buy desodorated coconut fat (this is usually the cheaper "cooking" kind of coconut fat) - just be sure it's the unhardened variety (if it get's liquid at 25°C, it's unhardened and not hydrogenated, and therefore does not contain transfats). butter, even organic grass fed is NOT an option if you're sensitive to the dairy proteins like me. butter still hast 1% milk proteins.

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7757eefbf5a2a4bc12e90015fc925db9

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on November 19, 2010
at 06:30 PM

I'm on day 5 of dairy free, nightshade free, egg free, seed and nut free and have been using avocado oil when coconut or olive will not do. (didn't even think of bacon fat!) But I would be using tallow if I had that, hoping to find a local source soon.

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on November 19, 2010
at 06:16 PM

Tallow and Coconut oil are great substitutes.

Even though I am almost fully dairy free I use butter. The only caveat is that I only use 100% pastured, raw butter. As Robb Wolf said, if you're eating grass fed butter, eat as much as you want. Just my $.02

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