I'm new to Paleo, and still feeling my way around. I've seen some powerful testimonies - in words and photos - at a few blogs, but it would be super cool to have a huge list of Before and Afters here that folks could refer to when they are starting out or when they need a boost of inspiration.
Tell us how Paleo worked for you. Show your amazing Before and After photos.
Please inspire me and others to stay the course! It's tough jumping in when Conventional Wisdom says that eating red meat and fat are the worst things you could do to your health.
Thank you! Can't wait to see what folks post!
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I've hesitated to put some photos up because while my weight-loss (etc) may be dramatic personally, it's doesn't seem to be dramatic objectively. Regardless, here they are...
BEFORE - 185 lbs in July 2007
AFTER 1 - 145 lbs in March 2010
I kept telling myself, "The slower it takes to lose the weight, the longer you'll maintain the weight-loss." ;)
Dear everyone on Paleo,
You are ridiculously hot.
Here's an image I put together for my blog's About Page. I lost about 45 lbs of the weight using a low-calorie, (mostly) whole foods approach -- but not Paleo. Toward the end, I was very hungry. Always thought about food.
I lost the last 10 lbs or so after switching to a Paleo approach and then started adding some much needed muscle mass as well.
Still thriving on Paleo, love the approach / lifestyle. Never hungry, even if I don't eat.
Okay. I totally can't resist a before and after, I haven't been Paleo that long, but it has made a difference.
First. Here's me in July 2004. 247lbs.
This is me at my first goal weight of 150. Non-paleo.
This is me at my 2nd goal weight of 136 (officially normal BMI) and Paleo for 2 months. I lost the last 14lbs and dropped my bf from 30% to 24%. I think you can see the difference.
You also get a fun view of my office bathroom! \o/
I am counting on Paleo to continue to work on my body fat and just make me healthier all the way around.
Me at 285lbs
Me at 180lbs
Here's some of the info from my Before/After post from last year (before a pain-killer screwed up my hormones and sent my fat accumulation into overdrive):
Here's a shot of me in December of 2004, after two depressing years of living on campus, subsisting on pita bread and cheese, white bread and butter (scraped on thin, cos it's "so bad for me"), grilled chicken breasts, pizza, and lite ice-cream.
After 9 months of paleo eating, I stepped out in a bikini for the first time in my life during a holiday in Thailand:
I'm still battling some hormonal imbalance, but I'm working to see the scales move back towards where they were sitting during the Thailand trip. Despite the weight gain, my health hasn't been adversely impacted since I've stayed paleo throughout. My flexibility and strength continue to improve, and even my vision is better than it was two years ago!
I know that paleo will help me achieve the health and fitness that I desire; I know too much now to ever return to my old ways!
I started Paleo for healing purposes- after 13 years of vege/veganism (from age 10-23), I had been diagnosed with an 'incurable' immune deficiency, had stopped mentstruating, struggled with bloating and constipation, low energy, no libido, and anxiety. It's been a slow but steady healing process with a lot of trial and error. I wouldn't call this a 'before' and 'after', but more like a 'before' and 'continuing'. Here I am in 2005, vegan, 5'7", 135 lbs. Not overweight, but not very vital- Note the sickly skin coloring and belly bloat...
It took two years of Paleo to curb my regular upper-respiratory infections (due to the immune deficiency). In the past 3 years, I've only gotten sick twice! I use some herbal remedies, but no western medicine (sans one round of antibiotics). This picture is in 2010 (I'm on the left)- I had dropped underweight, to 113lbs, because I still wasn't mestruating and didn't have hormonal balance. My energy had gone thru the roof, tho, and my anxiety was no longer overwhelming!
In the past year, my hormones have regulated- it was a rather scary process over about 6 months. I literally went thru puberty again ("leave me alone! nobody understands me!!"): began menstruating regularly, gained almost 20lbs (in primarily muscle), grew a bum, went up a cup size, libido-galore, and my hair curled (seriously- I've had straight hair my whole life!). I'm learning to love my body, to love being a woman. Here I am now, at 130lbs, vigor and curls (and tequila and water...)-
This is me back in january... weighed about 285. i didn't lead a horrible lifestyle. i ate pretty much low to moderate carb but had no knowledge about omega 3s and 6s, the different types of fat and the like.
i went paleo hardcore 7/1 after doing strict low carb to carve off about 12 lbs or so... this is me last week at 240@20% bf.
my goal is to chill out at around 225-230 with about 14% bodyfat. all my lifts- which weren't too shabby to begin with- are now really good now which is crazy considering that ive dropped 45lbs. oh yeah... this is the lowest my bf's been in my life. never could drop fat % below 23% before- that was even when i was running 5 miles a day several days a week and weighing 230 in college. paleo is amazing.
Edit: Recent pic (a link to the pic i'm apparently not bright enought to paste here) link text
Me age 20- living SAD Vegetarian at the UIUC dorms
Me age 24- After Movnat workshop and living ~3 years paleo
This is me at 290
This is me at 235. The sweat shirt makes me look eh but the hat makes it.
I am now down to 224 but do not have an updated picture. EDIT: weighted in at 223 this afternoon:
EDIT 2: Weighted in at 208 3/1/11 - Do I look healthier?
Edit 3: Up 5 pounds (213) but down one pant size (size 33).
I know it's a little blurry but this is after 6 months paleo. Before I was at 220-230 After was about 170, and I'm now at 160.
November 2009 and November 2010
I've only been paleo for about 4 months, in this time my asthma, acne and allergies have mostly disappeared. My original goal was to put on weight but I actually lost about 7-8kg. Now I'm starting to gain that again in muscle mass.
January 2011 Almost a year of Paleo now. Getting stronger and feeling great. I think this is going to be a great year. I'll update in a couple of months.
I don't have pre/post body shots, but the weight definitely came off in my face. Furthermore, my hair and skin look a lot better than they used to--in the first picture, I'm wearing foundation and lipstick. In the second picture, I'm wearing neither.
1: Pre-paleo, a couple of years ago. 2: Today, 11 months paleo.
I lost about 20 pounds of fat and gained about 10 pounds of muscle. I guess I was never that fat, but I certainly feel much more fit now.
Here's my story! Major life changes happened in 2006 and I ended up going from about 155 lbs to 175 lbs over a few months, then that kept creeping up to about 184 lbs late spring of 2010. Those years were very stressful (moving to another country, wedding, grad school, starting a business) and I tried to do the low carb thing a few times but could never stick with it.
It was tough because I used to do nude and ahem other alternative modelling and was very comfortable with my body, but here I was feeling like a lump, low energy, just not seeming like "myself" anymore. But I was so busy and focused that I didn't really care and didn't know how I could possibly ever have the energy or interest in "working out" (the way I thought you were supposed to lose weight at the time).
My stepson got into paleo via crossfit in 2009 and then my husband started in January 2010 and lost 20 or so lbs seemingly effortlessly over the next few months... so I jumped on board in June 2010.
The initial month or so had some tough cravings -- I didn't think in a million years I'd be able to completely give up pasta, bread, etc. but I rediscovered saturated fat and re-learned cooking with these new paleo principles, and suddenly it was an exciting and delicious new challenge. Other than the first couple of weeks, I've never felt like I've been suffering or depriving myself of what I wanted to eat. I have a fitbit and tracked food for at least a couple of months through their site so I could understand what I was eating.
The last six months have seen some refinement in my approach... at first it was mostly to kill the sugar, obvious grains/potatoes/legumes, up the meat, and adjust supplements. Then I started understanding the whole omega thing, and became more concerned with the oils and quality of meat I was using -- both for the sake of my own health, and the planet's. Then the sleep and blue light thing. Now I also use less sweeteners, minimize the frankenpaleo baking, avoid gluten like a celiac, sleep with blackout curtains, drink a mug of coffee with half a cup of heavy cream in the late morning, and usually only eat twice a day.
I can now proudly say that after 6 months I am a full on paleo nerd, telling people about it everywhere I go. It has caused me to challenge everything I assumed about diet, the products we use, the way we live... through this community I've also stopped using shampoo and other detergents, factory farmed ingredients, grain-based cat food, and as of this weekend, hormonal birth control. I have my arsenal of cheats, like occasional fries, GF baked goods, or peanut butter... but I'm happy with the balance.
My tastes have changed, I'm exploring previously-unthinkable foods, and through this newfound energy, finally getting seriously back into an art form I used to love -- bellydance.
So far I've lost 2 dress sizes, 26 lbs (down to 158), and over 5" off my waist. The waist was pretty dramatic -- snug shirts fitting over my stomach was the most sudden change.
The weight loss definitely slowed down over the past couple of months. I'm at a point where I'm really happy with my body again and am not shooting for any specific number, but I suspect another 5-10 lbs might happen when all is said and done, especially if I add in some planned strength training this year.
And now... pics!
My wedding in 2008 -- just the face, but you can see it
Warming up with my bellydance troupe
I went from about 165 down to 132-135 (varies during the day) in maybe four months. I am rarely hungry.
Still have more belly fat than seems natural considering how lean I am elsewhere but I'm hoping it'll go away or redistribute eventually. 11% BF according to the scale.
Sorry about the chopped head ;)
Personally I don't feel much different on a paleo diet than I did on the SAD except for not having to eat as frequently. And of course it's nice to have less fat to carry around.
Okay okay, I'll bite too. Though it isn't a complete "after" yet. I'm at my mid-point. I've stalled a bit in the last 3 or 4 months, as my "20%" cheats has turned more into "40-50%". But I'm doing the 30 day challenge, hoping to get refocused.
I started in February 2010, with high blood pressure, on meds, and weighed 215. Since then I've dropped to 185, and have stopped needing high blood pressure meds, as my blood pressure has returned to normal. Yay!
And I look forward to posting even better "after" photos shortly!
UPDATE! I got a bit lost over the last 6 months, and have wandered away from Paleo (though it always lived in my heart, just not in my food). And it cost me. I gained almost all the weight back (minus maybe 5 pounds). I learned a lot, and it really highlighted why Paleo is so amazing. But, thought I would put a new before picture up, to be honest about the journey. I hope to put another new after photo up before to long! One thing, this time I'm a lot more serious about it - I've realized that an occasional cheat is like heroin to me, it can really take me the wrong way. So I've been hyper aware of what I'm eating.
I'm REALLY not happy about this photo, but am excited to be back.
BEFORE PART 2:
AFTER 1 Month Paleo (I just couldn't leave that last picture dangling there)
I am not exactly an "after" yet. I am still learning and adjusting. I have my weaknesses and can no way claim to be 100%. I'm hovering around 90%. I feel great, though. And I am SO close to where I want to be that i already feel like I've won. I love living this way! I started at 158 and am currently at 130.
Before paleo I was pretty muscular, and considered trying my hand as the token Indian in natural bodybuilding contests. Several failed joint surgeries later, all the muscle is gone and I've got a bit of a paunch hiding under my suit. However, paleo is helping to recompose my body, and I can't wait to look fit again without a shirt on (but sleeker this time around).
Pre Paleo - 178# Despite non-stop gym workouts for years I thought I was a "Hard Gainer"
Post Paleo - 195# Can add and drop muscle mass at will now.
The picture on the left is me in early 2010 (topped of at 189). The right is a couple weeks ago (hover between 157 - 160).
April 2006 - April 2010 lost 50+ lbs doing Intermittent Fasting and increasing weightlifting and mild cardio - Yes, I was stuck at that composition for about a year and half.
April 2010 Switched to EVOLUTIONARY-BASED Eating
April 2010 -January 2011 Dropped 21lbs and 4% bodyfat
Here are the pics, from worst point to NOW.
April, 2006 260lbs 46 inches BF% Unknown
December 31st, 2010 195lbs 30%BF
I'm just 14 days into a 3 month run of Scott Sonnon's TACFIT Warrior, and I can feel my abs even if you can't see them yet.
THEN, I was an XXL for my shirts and an XL for the pants. NOW, I'm down to a large for my shirts and down to a size 34/medium for my pants.
Big thanks to Scott Sonnon and Steven Barnes for helping me get my head and body working together again, and big thanks to Kurt Harris and Rob Wolf for getting my food right.
Day 14 of TACFIT Warrior, and I can feel the changes underneath the skin, and know that they will show through my ever thinning layer of fat SOON.
My short-term physical goal is to actually see my abs this spring, I think I last saw them in my teens.
I'll come back and add a newer photo to this post at the end of February. March 3rd, 2011
UPDATE: July 2011 in the ADK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adirondack_Park
October 2011: I'm flatter in front and have less inner thigh wibble... but I don;t think there is enough change to merit a new photo.. Feeling Great and strong, tho!!!!
I was so inspired by everyone else's progress that I thought I would share mine. When I started Paleo I was sure that I would never get rid of my belly. It turns out what I thought was Battle Scars from my two pregnancies was actually Wheat Belly. In 5 weeks I have lost 15 pounds with nothing but diet change and 1-2 long walks a week. I feel great and can't wait to see what kind of transformations the future holds.
This is me at New Years 2010 and 2011, but I've been on paleo itself for only 6.5 months (started in June 2010). I'm down 70 pounds in that time.
A more proper set of before and after photos. On the left is me at a pool party in late August about 6 weeks before starting Paleo. On the right is me at the Polar Bear Swim yesterday in Coney Island. 35 pounds down in just under 3 months of Paleo dieting. I'm excited to see where I'm at 6 months from now.
Edited in June 2011 so you guys can enjoy the awesome and funny video of that Polar Bear Swim: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT0_NHtEAFQ
By the way, those six months have passed and I'm disappointingly still around the same weight as I was in January but I haven't been super strict with the food intake. Also I think there's been some fat loss and muscle gain so I'm not sweating it much. Still feeling great compared to pre-paleo.
Please excuse cave-hair.
- Me in Sept. 09 pre-Gluten-free/pre-paleo living at 180lbs~
- Me in April 2010 on serious Paleo/Primal lard binge since January at about 160lbs. There is a new hole in that belt and I need new jeans. I'll update if my abs ever decide to show up.
I guess I should note that beyond pictures, my life has changed dramatically since adopting Paleo. I figured out I had a gluten intolerance which I never would have if I never took up Paleo/Primal living. I now spend much less time in the bathroom which is pretty exciting news (haha). GERD is also pretty much non-existant without grains although sometimes it comes back with large quanities of salmon, tuna or Barleans fish oil (I take Nordic Naturals now and do not get acid reflux from it.) My cholesterol ratios are a lot better than before. My body fat has been significantly reduced. Also I am hoping that perhaps now all that time I've spent in the gym might actually do something with my body actually digesting nutrients now.
So here's me in August 2008 - weighing in at around 210 or so. (I didn't have anything more recent that showed me at the same weight, but it's current enough to do the trick.)
And here's me roughly two weeks ago, getting two tattoos at once! Here, I'm about 157.
I don't really have a lot of pictures of me, and being seated isn't the best shot, but you can see the difference, I think.
You can at least see my deep-rooted love of wearing black tshirts. Regardless of diet, my limited fashion sense will never change.
SAD diet, 2008, 170 pounds
Had quit gluten,corn and soy, but still way too much sugar in my diet. Too thin because I was always sick. 125 pounds, 2010
Last week,4th of July. Nice middle ground, been Paleo 90/10 since January, working to make that 98/2 (Summer at the beach means a lot of BBQs, parties, eating out, bars and sitting at home would be the only way to be 100%).
This was end of December, 2009, and end of April, 2010-- I started Paleo on February 1st, 2010 and lost 50 pounds!
This is NOT an after picture... It is a before and now picture.
Paleo has done so much more for my health than weight loss. I am no longer insulin resistant and I am happier with a better disposition on life (it can't fix all my crazy, but it has helped.) I just started a blog http://apaleoishlife.blogspot.com/
Not totally due to paleo, about half doing the traditional eat less "bad stuff" and move more thing. Paleo was just my transition to better, more enjoyable eating. I think the overall positive attitude, as shown by my two thumbs up, is all because of paleo though!
I don't have pictures, and I don't think I have any drastic differences in the way I look. But I know a lot has changed. I have a lot of energy, I actually want to do stuff. My fibromyalgia got better - I have less muscle pain, joint pain or "fibro fog". I am generally more positive and cheerful. My skin cleared and now I hardly ever have any breaks. My digestive system works better - no bloating, minimum gases, no constipation... and no bad smell in the bathroom.
I can go for hours without snacks or need to eat NOW. I feel good even with fasting periods, which I couldn't do before.
My muscles got stronger and bigger, I have much more definition.
hm... can't think of anything more. I will have blood tests in two weeks, I am really looking forward to check that up!
Since this was one of the threads that really convinced me on getting started with paleo, I decided to add my contribution as well.
Before paleo I was somewhere above 100kg (I did not have a working scale at home in the beginning). I was eating bread/pasta in huge amounts, and still not feeling satisfied after a meal.
I have been mostly paleo for about 3.5 months now, with 2 weeks of non-paleo recently, and an occasional beer/wine/liquor/bread/pasta and other non-paleo stuff on social events.
In the first month I started with strict paleo in order to get my leptin sensitivity back to normal. In that month I lost about 10kg (mostly fluid I think; the biggest advantage was losing the "puffyness" in the face almost instantly.)
After that month I decided to go a bit less strict (social events etc), and the weight loss continued at a steady but slower pace, until I got to about 90kg. I loved the fact that I could skip a day of eating altogether if I did not feel like eating that day, instead of being dependent on food. (I think I was as addicted to food as I had been to cigarettes in the past.)
During my vacation, my weight increased again about 3.5kg, due to not being paleo at all. (I consider 3.5kg acceptable, because we consumed mostly bread/cheese/wine, since we were in France after all.)
Oddly enough, it looks like the recurring weight is not where it used to be (my belly), so I have got no idea where the extra weight went; maybe it's on my earlobes ? ;)
I have slowly been moving again to a slightly stricter approach, and my weight is dropping again (currently about 92kg). I also started doing some Tabata sprints as wel again (2 times/week).
I decided to post a morph of a before and after pic just to show everyone - especially myself - how well paleo has been for my body (next to healing IBS which I had been struggling with for 2 years, not snoring any more - the Mrs. loves this - , and being able to wear some tighter clothing without looking like a human "Lazy Boy" ;) )
Here we go (3.5 months, after a slip of about 2 weeks during vacation):
I think I still have to lose about 10kg, but I will see where my body takes me... It looks like the belly fat is a bit more stubborn then the other fat, maybe because it has been there for about 10 years ?
My biggest paleo-sin is not getting enough sleep; I am coming from an average of about 3 to 5 hours, so I already made a lot of progress, but I still need to improve it... I think I am now probably sleeping about 6 hours on average.
After the initial six months of mostly paleo I plan on having my blood checked, introducing a moderate amount of carbs again (at a slow pace), and living a healthy life again...
If any of you are hesitating to try paleo, then just commit yourself to 30 days of paleo, and see where it takes you ! Good luck!
"Pre-Paleo" August 22, 2009. Weight: 163 lbs. Standard American Diet minus HFCS and hydrogenation.
Not terribly overweight, but I had very little definition and a bit of a belly.
Began strength training on the Powertec system Aug 1, 2010. Also began eating "Paleo" style Aug 9, 2010.
I've gained tremendous strength and my bodyfat % was measured at 10.1% a few weeks ago.
Mar 19, 2011, after 7 months Paleo and strength training 3x week. Weight: 150 lbs
Dips on the bench bar. My feet are actually about 2 feet off the ground here.
Aug 22, 2011, after 1 year Paleo and strength training (began 5x week 1 month ago). Weight: 158 lbs
Here's my station in our spare bedroom that we use as a gym.
It's a Powertec Workbench leverage system with 395 lbs of Olympic free weights.
I can do over 20 different exercises, incl squats and dead lifts. Bitchin machine because I don't need a spotter.
No before or after just generally how I look if anyone is interested.
On the left: My highest weight, a few months before discovering paleo & WAPF On the right: 5 years later... results speak for themselves :)
I held off for awhile, but might as well...
I'm not yet where I want to be (hoping to stay very solid around 250lbs or so), but I am getting there.
This was me at 426lbs:
In late 2002, I went on Paleo for a year and lost 100lbs, in late 2003 I discovered the sport of Strongman:
In strongman, with Paleo, I felt like I could not eat enough. I eventually reintroduced all those foods that had been "off limits" and countered their effects (poorly) with tons of Fish Oil, fiber, and when I was really hurting, around 1gm of Ibuprofen a day. By 2008 when I went to Nationals I was 380lbs (This picture was snapped a month before Nationals at Epcot):
Shortly after Nationals I decided to "retire" from Strongman... I am one of those "overdo it" types and I had severely neglected my health and my family in my pursuit of collecting trophies (that now collect dust). I didn't change my eating habits, however, and stayed the same weight as when I competed - but I was losing muscle and getting fatter, my health problems were getting so severe that I didn't know what to do.
So about 2 years ago I went back to Paleo, remembering it was the only time in my life I wasn't plagued with leaky gut and fatigue. It wasn't with the express goal to lose weight - but I knew if I stayed diligent, the weight would come off... and it has. Today I'm much lighter than I was when I competed in Nationals (I experimented with a relaxed, higher starch diet for half of last year and ). I'm currently at 331lbs, utilizing Paleo principles, IF principles, and remaining quite low carb.
This plan has resulted in approximately .3lbs/day loss since Late November, including a few binges over new years and christmas (excluding those, it's been about 1/2lb a day). I know the water is gone now because I stabilize at a certain weight for 3-4 days, then I wake up 2-3lbs lighter (instead of waking up every morning 1lb lighter).
This picture is from a few months ago (before the starch experiment) and iirc I think I was around 330 here. So you get the idea of how I look today - except I have a great big beard now though...
So, hopefully in the very near future - you will see some new pictures from me, most notably after the next 30lbs comes off, the 30 after that, and the final 20 or so.
from 18st (252lbs) to 12st (168-170lbs) in around a year, usual protocol paleo eating and a dash of weight training and HIIT
Nine months ago I carried 92 pounds on a five foot two inch frame. I was too depressed and fed up with life to take care of myself, to feed myself.
Now I weigh 108 pounds. I gained half of the weight back on a lacto-paleo diet after discovering a gluten allergy, which I'm almost positive caused my mental disorder before manifesting itself as a gut problem. Now I'm fully grain-free dairy-free legume-free traditional Paleo, and I'm just so much HAPPIER than I used to be. I enjoy life more, and feel a better sense of connection with my friends and family and world.
I don't have any sexy ab pictures but here's me doing a handstand.
I know I posted a "before and after" previously, but I did a little more tweaking (you can read about the entire process here) so I figured that an update would be in order.
6 months later (first 3 "Paleo", next 3 "Primal")
It's also worth noting that I'm consistently hitting new PR's on all my lifts (65lb dumbbell curls, 295 bench, 100lb weighted pull up, 300+ for reps on squats and deadlift) and feel like an entirely new person. My diet is pretty low carb (sub 50gms/day) with moderate protein and high fat. I usually eat 2-3 meals and have been implementing 1-2 IF's (18-24 hrs including sleep) each week.
For the first time in my life, I feel like I'm free from the tyranny of food. This doesn't mean that I don't enjoy eating but rather that I am now able to fully enjoy a meal and then move on. I'm capable of simply being in the moment and can appreciate life's unfolding without the anxiety and need for constant stimulation that previously defined my experience. It is beautiful to feel contented whether I'm going on a walk, riding in the car, at work, or simply laying down on the grass watching the clouds go by.
I actually just had my first "progress" picture on Monday. This version is small and I'm blurred (I'm still too heavy to not be shy :P) but there is some progress:
I decided I was going to take my picture in the same place in the same color/similar outfit and in the same lighting because I don't want to be like those scam advertisers... but yeah, this is after one week actually being strict.
When I went from vegan to around 70/30 paleo (I wasn't supplying my own food) I went from around 270 to 230 pounds which is where I am in the January 3 picture. I did not have the mind to photograph myself then. Maybe it would have given me more motivation, but on the other hand, I'm kind of glad I don't have to see myself at that weight :P
I don't have any pictures, I don't own a camera, LOL, but, I'll let the statistics speak for themselves
Pre Paleo (normal range in Parentheses) Total Chol (70-140)=249 Trigs*(<150*)=996 HDL*(>39*)=24 LDL*(<100*)=134 Chol Ratio*(<1.3*)=18.13 A1C*(<6*)=8.9 Weight(175)=209 % Body Fat(20)=30 Meds=Lipitor, Tricor, lisinopril, Metformin, 50u. Insulin daily Pants size 36 waist/32 leg
After 1 year Paleo (I follow Dr. Bernstein and Mark Sisson/Kurt Harris's style) Total Chol=107 Trigs=124 HDL=40 LDL=61 Chol Ratio=.89 A1C=5.1 Weight=174 %BF=12.3 Meds=35u. Insulin daily(Doctor took me off everything else) Pants size 30 waist/32 leg
It worked for me!
Primal Insulin Dependent Diabetic
Me at 280 lbs and me at 160 lbs