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Is Cider (i.e. Woodchuck, etc) an acceptable alcoholic drink to consume?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created May 29, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Although I know staying away from alcohol altogether is probably the best option, I'd like to know if ciders (Woodchuck, hard-cider, etc) are an acceptable option if consumed in small quantities. I had someone mention this to me and wasn't really sure of its validity. Has anyone heard of this as an option?

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on July 27, 2012
at 12:45 AM

This sounds great and totally doable. Question: how alcoholic do you suppose it is? Can one cop a nice buzz, or is this mostly about flavor? I'd like it either way, but sometimes I want the buzz. Is that so wrong? ;-)

Af49bced416926d9f88e47a7e705d99d

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on June 29, 2012
at 06:05 AM

diet soda? is that a joke?

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on May 30, 2012
at 07:29 PM

Thank you for all your comments...trip to the liquor store tonight to do a little research using your suggestions and will try my hand at homemade brew this weekend. Thanks a ton! You guys are great.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on May 30, 2012
at 01:18 PM

Hard cider, grapefruit juice, apple jack O_o - tastykakes!

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on May 30, 2012
at 01:15 PM

Oh, that's a bummer.. but if you're feeling good then that's all that counts. I was invited to the first US pour of Nogne-O, a pairing event, and that is some lovely stuff. Get thee to the event post haste and cider is yours. I pour at all the events here in NY and go early to stake out my taps :) Good luck and have fun!

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on May 30, 2012
at 01:13 PM

Agree!! I also can't wait until Virtue, not part of Goose Island :) - solo!, is available. So good. And weird. His years as a brewer really show.. drank similar to a Belgium.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

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on May 30, 2012
at 11:40 AM

Yeah diet soda is way better!

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on May 30, 2012
at 06:00 AM

Dry Blackthorn is my absolute fave.

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on May 30, 2012
at 04:48 AM

Dupont is the JAMMMMMMMMMM!!! And Eve's is SO good. Uh holy crap, I wanna try the Goose Island Virtue SO BAD dude.

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(5639)

on May 30, 2012
at 04:46 AM

pffft...so you (obviously! EWWW!!) don't like it, and that makes it not paleo?

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(5639)

on May 30, 2012
at 04:46 AM

pffft...so you (obviously! EWWW!0 don't like it, and that makes it not paleo?

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(5639)

on May 30, 2012
at 04:45 AM

The cider boilermaker sounds pretty interesting. I'm a bartender, and I used to love carbombs in my past life. I always won the race too. I'll have to try it with cider.

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on May 30, 2012
at 04:39 AM

Crispin is one of my favorites.

9ac8a7b68cf079b22de42b703e466e64

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on May 30, 2012
at 03:58 AM

I second the apfelwein. I've made a couple batches of it, and it always hits the spot.

B04787f664abf9bebc28f71bf7825a3c

(877)

on May 30, 2012
at 03:25 AM

Oh, I tried Crispin while at Notre Dame! It's very good!

B04787f664abf9bebc28f71bf7825a3c

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on May 30, 2012
at 03:24 AM

@kashperanto yes, Woodchuck is sweet (and 200 calories a bottle XD), but Hornsbys tastes very harsh to me. I tried another called Crispin, but it was on tap down in Notre Dame -- never tried it anywhere else. VERY good though!

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

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on May 30, 2012
at 03:22 AM

Sadly, I've given up the beer for good. But in my former life I've been lucky enough to sample many of the best beers out there (including Nogne-O). But my BF is the biggest beer geek on the planet and will be in heaven. (We're volunteering) I asked to pour cider, so I hope they let me.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on May 30, 2012
at 02:44 AM

Yep, totally agree. My little paws latched on to some unpasteurized apple and pear over winter - mwahh ha ha, so did a carboy of each. White Labs for one Red Star for the other. A couple of racks later, and hibernation, and they'll be ready to drink in a week. Excited!

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on May 30, 2012
at 02:41 AM

Crispin isn't dry though, either.

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on May 30, 2012
at 02:40 AM

Oh my gosh, google Ed Wort's apfelwein. It was my first alcohol ferment and it came out smashingly - and it was dirt cheap. It really hit its stride at about a year old...

4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

(5145)

on May 30, 2012
at 02:39 AM

Wow, I always wondered why my jaw sometimes tingled when drinking beer. Thanks.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on May 30, 2012
at 02:29 AM

Kelly! If you're drinking beer at all, make sure to meet the guys from Nogne-O and try the product. It's aces. Also, my favourite Cantillon will be tearing if up, too. Some good stuff on the list. This nerd approves whole-heartedly :)

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

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on May 30, 2012
at 02:27 AM

The BF and I are formulating a trip to Portland and that is definitely going to be one of our destinations.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on May 30, 2012
at 02:25 AM

Maine Meadworks in Portland is fantastic, you can taste all of the offerings, and everyone working there is awesome. I cringed when they offered me a pour of the strawberry.. and proceeded to buy 2 bottles to bring back.

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

(384)

on May 30, 2012
at 01:04 AM

Definitely. I have had them often as a beer-replacement, but a few times I got very painful jaw tingling, which is supposedly linked to a sulfite sensitivity. Not to mention they are freakishly sweet. I prefer Hornsby's cider. Walmart carries them, and they are more dry.

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

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on May 29, 2012
at 09:58 PM

Also if anyone from New England is interested, there's a beer festival coming up this month that is going to be featuring artisan ciders from around the world as well as beer. http://the-festival.us I make no money from this, I'm just excited to go to a beer festival again.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on May 29, 2012
at 09:54 PM

I'll check out Jacks, thanks for the suggestion.

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

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on May 29, 2012
at 09:54 PM

Strongbow was on tap in every bar I went to in England. I adored it. Still get it here from time to time in the tallboy cans. Definitely one of the less sweet ones.

Eb54f663195dc92f1dab4e0e7ef6b4d0

(134)

on May 29, 2012
at 09:39 PM

me too. The Crispin English style is particularly good. I also like the ace "Jacks" cider that uses champagne yeast. its a classic dry cider that's not too sweet.

E36cb992cf0a5eba8b97a359c15f38b3

(4347)

on May 29, 2012
at 09:32 PM

I agree. Making your own is easy (and fun). You don't even really need yeast if you go the Wild Fermentation (Sandor Katz) route.

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on May 29, 2012
at 09:16 PM

Oh, nevermind - they have a link for that! Off to Applejacks I go...

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on May 29, 2012
at 08:59 PM

Where can one buy Colorado Cider in Denver?

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

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on May 29, 2012
at 08:32 PM

Watch out for added sugars, some are insanely sweet.

Baa413654789b57f3579474ca7fa43d7

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on May 29, 2012
at 08:31 PM

You could be right. I'll keep an eye out for some less sweet varieties. I don't really have any noticeable adverse reactions to beer, but I like having options.

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Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on May 30, 2012
at 02:21 AM

If it's not impeding your goals in anyway then, IMO, go for it. Read the bottles to verify that there isn't any added sugars, or any other oddities, and away you go.

What I've tried, see below, Woodchuck is too sweet for me - I also left out some of what the others have listed keeping to the ones I like best. Some may not float your canoe but as my toes are in the booze industry I'll give pretty much anything a shot. 80/20 rule applies to me :)

  • Julian out of CA
  • Samuel Smith Organic
  • Original Sin - Cherry Tree, great on a hot day in a pint glass full of ice. I found Pippin too sweet
  • All the Crispin offerings - The Jacket was wild. Some have "natural apple flavouring" so just keep an eye out
  • Eve's Cidery - They blow out of their bottles quickly, it's seasonal, the Northern Spy is delicious
  • Fox Barrel "Perry"
  • Angry Orchard. I thought the dry was too sweet but the ginger apple really surprised me, quite nice
  • Wandering Aengus Ciderworks - The Wanderlust is tasty-
  • Urban Farm Fermentory Baby Jimmy. I love so much I would like to hug the bottles

I don't mind Brit ciders but definitely prefer French: - Etienne Dupont Cidre Bouche Brut de Normandie - SWOON Domaine Dupont knows whats up - Eric Bordelet ???reserve??? cuvees Sydre Argelette and Poire Granite

And, sorry, you can't buy it yet, but Virtue Cider from my buddy Greg, one of the original owners of Goose Island, is going to be the jam. I was given a rando bottle as a gift and it's weird and wonderful. Put on a list as a future purchase!

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(5639)

on May 30, 2012
at 04:48 AM

Dupont is the JAMMMMMMMMMM!!! And Eve's is SO good. Uh holy crap, I wanna try the Goose Island Virtue SO BAD dude.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on May 30, 2012
at 01:13 PM

Agree!! I also can't wait until Virtue, not part of Goose Island :) - solo!, is available. So good. And weird. His years as a brewer really show.. drank similar to a Belgium.

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0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

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on May 30, 2012
at 03:13 AM

I love a cold Strongbow, myself, but I also brew my own. No really - it's stupid-easy!

Buy one of those glass gallon jugs of organic apple juice and dump a packet of champagne yeast into it, cap and shake. Remove the lid and replace with a cheap airlock (a balloon stretched over the opening will also do the trick.) Let the yeast go to work on the juice for about a week. The yeast will settle to the bottom. Siphon your cider into a clean jar, leaving the yeast residue behind. Let the cider sit another several days to a week - tasting every couple of days to test sweetness. Depending on how warm/cool room temperature is in your house, two weeks may be enough time to give you a fairly dry cider. Customize the brewing time to suit your taste.

Voila: Organic hard cider with no presvatives or added sugar!

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on July 27, 2012
at 12:45 AM

This sounds great and totally doable. Question: how alcoholic do you suppose it is? Can one cop a nice buzz, or is this mostly about flavor? I'd like it either way, but sometimes I want the buzz. Is that so wrong? ;-)

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7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

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on May 29, 2012
at 08:47 PM

Very good dry cider is ridiculously easy to make too. Champagne yeast, organic apple juice, added sugar if you want the alcohol content higher. For store-bought things, the problem is usually some added ingredient. The worst is when brands you get used to relying on decide to adulterate their products.

E36cb992cf0a5eba8b97a359c15f38b3

(4347)

on May 29, 2012
at 09:32 PM

I agree. Making your own is easy (and fun). You don't even really need yeast if you go the Wild Fermentation (Sandor Katz) route.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on May 30, 2012
at 02:44 AM

Yep, totally agree. My little paws latched on to some unpasteurized apple and pear over winter - mwahh ha ha, so did a carboy of each. White Labs for one Red Star for the other. A couple of racks later, and hibernation, and they'll be ready to drink in a week. Excited!

9ac8a7b68cf079b22de42b703e466e64

(787)

on May 30, 2012
at 03:58 AM

I second the apfelwein. I've made a couple batches of it, and it always hits the spot.

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on May 30, 2012
at 02:40 AM

Oh my gosh, google Ed Wort's apfelwein. It was my first alcohol ferment and it came out smashingly - and it was dirt cheap. It really hit its stride at about a year old...

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0c8d194ac062af4de60919f796df6e17

on May 29, 2012
at 08:27 PM

Not all Hard Ciders are sweet. I think that if you were to drink Woodchuck you would find it has way to much sugar (22g).

In Colorado we are fortunate to have access to some craft Cider: http://coloradocider.com/our-cider which is great and low in sugar (less than 4 g).

I have found Strongbow's dry cider sold in most large liquor stores as an acceptable alternative coming in at 9 grams of sugar per bottle. There is a good chance your beer drinking friends will make fun of you for drinking cider (mine do). However the negative consequences of drinking a couple beers just isn't worth it for me anymore.

I never really developed a tasted for Sorgum (gluten free) beer so Cider has been a good replacement on the occasion to drink with friends.

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

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on May 29, 2012
at 09:54 PM

Strongbow was on tap in every bar I went to in England. I adored it. Still get it here from time to time in the tallboy cans. Definitely one of the less sweet ones.

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on May 29, 2012
at 09:16 PM

Oh, nevermind - they have a link for that! Off to Applejacks I go...

Baa413654789b57f3579474ca7fa43d7

(2349)

on May 29, 2012
at 08:31 PM

You could be right. I'll keep an eye out for some less sweet varieties. I don't really have any noticeable adverse reactions to beer, but I like having options.

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on May 29, 2012
at 08:59 PM

Where can one buy Colorado Cider in Denver?

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A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4176)

on May 29, 2012
at 09:25 PM

Try Crispin cider. I can usually do one without feeling terrible and it isn't sickly sweet.

EDIT: I know this is slightly off topic (and not very classy), but when I want a cider-like drink without the sugar craziness, I add carbonated mineral water to red wine and some frozen blueberries. I know this seems like cheerleader juice, but it is really refreshing and much better than going through the discomfort that sugar brings.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4176)

on May 29, 2012
at 09:54 PM

I'll check out Jacks, thanks for the suggestion.

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on May 30, 2012
at 02:41 AM

Crispin isn't dry though, either.

Eb54f663195dc92f1dab4e0e7ef6b4d0

(134)

on May 29, 2012
at 09:39 PM

me too. The Crispin English style is particularly good. I also like the ace "Jacks" cider that uses champagne yeast. its a classic dry cider that's not too sweet.

B04787f664abf9bebc28f71bf7825a3c

(877)

on May 30, 2012
at 03:25 AM

Oh, I tried Crispin while at Notre Dame! It's very good!

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on May 29, 2012
at 08:08 PM

What do you mean by acceptable? I will still accept you if you drink it. Well, as long as you're a happy drunk. Definitely not if you're an angry drunk.

I believe Woodchuck has sulfites and/or other preservatives added.

4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

(5145)

on May 30, 2012
at 02:39 AM

Wow, I always wondered why my jaw sometimes tingled when drinking beer. Thanks.

B04787f664abf9bebc28f71bf7825a3c

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on May 30, 2012
at 03:24 AM

@kashperanto yes, Woodchuck is sweet (and 200 calories a bottle XD), but Hornsbys tastes very harsh to me. I tried another called Crispin, but it was on tap down in Notre Dame -- never tried it anywhere else. VERY good though!

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(5639)

on May 30, 2012
at 04:39 AM

Crispin is one of my favorites.

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

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on May 30, 2012
at 01:04 AM

Definitely. I have had them often as a beer-replacement, but a few times I got very painful jaw tingling, which is supposedly linked to a sulfite sensitivity. Not to mention they are freakishly sweet. I prefer Hornsby's cider. Walmart carries them, and they are more dry.

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D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

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on May 30, 2012
at 02:47 AM

Hard cider helps keep me sane. I got tired of paying a ton for sugary cider at the store, so I made this: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f81/edworts-apfelwein-33986/. But my favorite cider is dry hopped and FABULOUS: Finnriver's http://www.vineyard2door.com/web/product_detail.cfm?id=12480. It's local to me, but if you're in WA, OR, CA, MN, FL or DC, I think you can have it shipped. It is outstanding and not at all sweet. Perfect for summer grilling.

So, yeah I think hard cider is kosher. It's a treat, but fermented foods are about as traditional as one can get. Just don't buy the stuff with crap added.

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on May 29, 2012
at 11:38 PM

As others have said, Woodchuck has a fair amount of sugar-it's my favorite though! I only like it on tap though and haven't had it in about 6 months. Strongbow is pretty good but another one no one else has mentioned is Blackthorn, which is also lower in sugar/carbs. I believe the Blackthorn comes in Med-dry and Dry, the more dry the cider, the less sugar/carbs it will have. I think the same company also makes Sir Perry's Pear Cider, it is also pretty good but I think it is pretty high in carbs/sugar.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on May 30, 2012
at 06:00 AM

Dry Blackthorn is my absolute fave.

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on May 29, 2012
at 11:00 PM

Hornsby's is a malt beverages flavored to taste like cider, IIRC. They are also known to not be gluten free.

Relevant Link

(note - I'm finding some flip-flopping about Harpoon btw... apparently they state they are gluten free and no gluten goes into production, but perhaps they aren't certified because of the facility? I removed it from my response)

I'm a Strongbow, Magners, and Ace Brewing man myself. Ace Pear Cider is the bombdiggity.

Be careful of the sugar, there is a ton in cider. I tend to have cider with boilermakers (shot of whiskey in cider) when my friends are drinking carbombs (shot of whiskey in guinness).

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(5639)

on May 30, 2012
at 04:45 AM

The cider boilermaker sounds pretty interesting. I'm a bartender, and I used to love carbombs in my past life. I always won the race too. I'll have to try it with cider.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on May 30, 2012
at 01:18 PM

Hard cider, grapefruit juice, apple jack O_o - tastykakes!

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F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

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on May 29, 2012
at 09:53 PM

Crispin has so many different varieties, including one with hops.

I also am a big fan of Scrumpys. Made from just apples.

This weekend I had a cyser (not cider) from Maine Meadworks on tap at a beer restaurant. It was fabulous. I want to look for more from these guys.

Beweare of Harpoon. It's tasy but they don't guarantee it's not cross-contaminated with gluten from their brewery.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on May 30, 2012
at 02:29 AM

Kelly! If you're drinking beer at all, make sure to meet the guys from Nogne-O and try the product. It's aces. Also, my favourite Cantillon will be tearing if up, too. Some good stuff on the list. This nerd approves whole-heartedly :)

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on May 30, 2012
at 02:27 AM

The BF and I are formulating a trip to Portland and that is definitely going to be one of our destinations.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on May 30, 2012
at 02:25 AM

Maine Meadworks in Portland is fantastic, you can taste all of the offerings, and everyone working there is awesome. I cringed when they offered me a pour of the strawberry.. and proceeded to buy 2 bottles to bring back.

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on May 29, 2012
at 09:58 PM

Also if anyone from New England is interested, there's a beer festival coming up this month that is going to be featuring artisan ciders from around the world as well as beer. http://the-festival.us I make no money from this, I'm just excited to go to a beer festival again.

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on May 30, 2012
at 03:22 AM

Sadly, I've given up the beer for good. But in my former life I've been lucky enough to sample many of the best beers out there (including Nogne-O). But my BF is the biggest beer geek on the planet and will be in heaven. (We're volunteering) I asked to pour cider, so I hope they let me.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on May 30, 2012
at 01:15 PM

Oh, that's a bummer.. but if you're feeling good then that's all that counts. I was invited to the first US pour of Nogne-O, a pairing event, and that is some lovely stuff. Get thee to the event post haste and cider is yours. I pour at all the events here in NY and go early to stake out my taps :) Good luck and have fun!

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E36cb992cf0a5eba8b97a359c15f38b3

on May 29, 2012
at 09:24 PM

I've been drinking hard cider for a long time (since I studied in the UK during college). As much as I like red wine, sometimes I really want a beer replacement that's gluten free. Not the same, but I find a good dry cider a lot more refreshing than a glass of red.

ANYWAY. Like greymouser said, Harpoon is kind of icky. I enjoy Originial Sin and some of the drier varieties from Woodchuck, but my favorite ciders are from Crispin and one of our local (Virginia) companies. If you're not too concerned about residual sugar, just try out a bunch of different artisanal varieties and pick your favorite.

I think this is my millionth DIY advocate post of the month, but making your own is really fun as well. Get organic apple juice without preservatives (bonus if you make it from unfiltered raw cider in the fall) and use the techniques in Sandor Katz' book(s). You can play with long or short fermentation times and added flavors. (And if you screw up, wait a couple of weeks and you'll have raw cider vinegar! Everybody wins.)

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Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on May 29, 2012
at 08:38 PM

A good hard cider is made from Paleo ingredients - i.e. apples (arguably pears) -- so only the caveats of alcohol being Paleo or not apply.

As some have stated, the range of sugar varies. For flavor and less sugar, I prefer Strongbow or Magners. They are lower in calories than Woodchuck (120C v. 200C for a ~12oz bottle). These two are also (from my experience) the most common to find in bars after Woodchuck, which is nice. My local pub has Magners on tap, which is fantastic.

I had a Fox Barrel pear cider this weekend, which was the first dry-er pear cider I've ever had -- quite nice.

I would avoid Harpoon's hard cider -- I found it almost unpalatable.

Original Sin and Angry Orchard are quite good, but they tend to be on the sweeter side.

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on May 30, 2013
at 10:40 PM

IMPORTANT...!!!

PALEO Ciders made from ONLY fresh-pressed apples and no additives:

Julian Hard Cider Teiton Ciderworks Red Barn

NON-PALEO Ciders made from Chinese apple juice concentrate and added sugars:

Angry Orchard Crispin Fox Barrel Woodchuck Wyders Original Sin ACE Strongbow Magners Bulmers Blackthorne Wandering Aengus

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on August 20, 2012
at 04:05 AM

What about good ole Colt 45?

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on May 29, 2012
at 09:53 PM

Harpoon makes a tasty dry cider that goes down well for me. 7g sugar per bottle, no sulfites, no preservatives. Farnum Hill Extra Dry Cider is a nice one, too.

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on May 29, 2012
at 08:58 PM

Different flavors of Woodchuck have different nutritional facts as well. I'm looking at a bottle of the Granny Smith and it says 160 calories, 11g sugar (less than 1% added sulfites), which to me is an acceptable treat. It's mighty tasty too.

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on May 29, 2012
at 08:15 PM

Hard ciders are usually gluten free (although you should probably check the specific brand to be sure). So, if you are looking for a gluten free, carbonated alcoholic beverage, it is an option.

I tried drinking hard cider for a while. But it is just too sweet for me. Now I'm of the opinion that if I am going to drink a small amount of alcohol, I'm just going to drink what I like. When I want a nice hoppy IPA, no amount of carbonated apple juice, er hard cider, is going to do the trick.

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on May 30, 2012
at 12:17 AM

Ewwww for the love of god, NO!!!! and neither is a Mich Ultra! Do shots of good tequila, with or without a fruit juice chaser or diet soda.(depending on desired effect) For the love of all that is good.

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on May 30, 2012
at 11:40 AM

Yeah diet soda is way better!

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on May 30, 2012
at 04:46 AM

pffft...so you (obviously! EWWW!!) don't like it, and that makes it not paleo?

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on May 30, 2012
at 04:46 AM

pffft...so you (obviously! EWWW!0 don't like it, and that makes it not paleo?

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on June 29, 2012
at 06:05 AM

diet soda? is that a joke?

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